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Old 01-01-2005, 11:09 PM
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***** Hand History for Game 1378966416 *****
$0.5/$1 Hold'em - Sunday, January 02, 02:54:35 EDT 2005
Table Table 13300 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: ewood3742 ( $17.25 )
Seat 3: lilmike77 ( $26.5 )
Seat 4: El_Tranza ( $168 )
Seat 5: auburnstud43 ( $20 )
Seat 7: nachos3 ( $33.25 )
Seat 8: DCOTA ( $47 )
Seat 9: hargrem ( $44.25 )
Seat 1: flawless21 ( $23.75 )
Seat 6: cdhtrout ( $49.75 )
Seat 10: BullySlayer ( $24 )
auburnstud43 posts small blind [$0.25].
cdhtrout posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to flawless21 [ Ac 4c ]
>You have options at Table 12663 Table!.
nachos3 folds.
DCOTA calls [$0.5].
hargrem calls [$0.5].
BullySlayer calls [$0.5].
flawless21 calls [$0.5].
ewood3742 calls [$0.5].
>You have options at Table 12663 Table!.
lilmike77 calls [$0.5].
El_Tranza raises [$1].
auburnstud43 folds.
cdhtrout folds.
DCOTA calls [$0.5].
>You have options at Table 12663 Table!.
hargrem calls [$0.5].
BullySlayer calls [$0.5].
flawless21 calls [$0.5].
ewood3742 calls [$0.5].
lilmike77 calls [$0.5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, Jh, 6c ]
DCOTA checks.
hargrem checks.
BullySlayer checks.
flawless21 checks.
ewood3742 checks.
lilmike77 bets [$0.5].
El_Tranza calls [$0.5].
DCOTA folds.
hargrem calls [$0.5].
BullySlayer folds.
flawless21 calls [$0.5].
ewood3742 calls [$0.5].
>You have options at Table 12663 Table!.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
hargrem checks.
flawless21 checks.
ewood3742 checks.
lilmike77 bets [$1].
El_Tranza folds.
hargrem calls [$1].
flawless21 calls [$1].
ewood3742 folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
hargrem checks.
flawless21 bets [$1].
lilmike77 raises [$2].
hargrem folds.
flawless21 calls [$1].
lilmike77 shows [ Tc, Jd ] three of a kind, jacks.
flawless21 shows [ Ac, 4c ] a flush, ace high.
flawless21 wins $16.5 from the main pot with a flush, ace high.


I think everything pre-river was fine but on the river, should I have check-raised, or (with how I bet into him) 3bet him back? I feared full because that was just how my day had been...
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I would have raised more on the river, i really think he would have played stronger if he had a boat. I think he would have been more agressive, rather than playing scared with baby raises like what he was doing.
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nevermind it was limit
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Um extremely weakt-tight to not 3 bet this. You ahve to put him on J9 or 66 to be beat, 3 bet and call a cap...
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Weak tight? Definitely not tight. You could have raised the flop too.
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Old 01-02-2005, 08:46 AM
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Um so you are advocating not 3 betting here? Just wondering.
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I am still very noobish on limit, so do I generally 2bet nut flush draws on flops?
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If you think everyone will call another bet, yes raise. Whenever there are 4-5 people in you want as much money as possible if you are drawing to the nuts.

3bet the river!
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Um so you are advocating not 3 betting here? Just wondering.
I am not sure. It could win you one bet or lose you two. Most of the players I play are very sensitive to flush cards and would not raise with a flush on the board unless they could beat it.
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I am still very noobish on limit, so do I generally 2bet nut flush draws on flops?
When you have 3 or more opponents you can raise for value on the flop. Here, you probably only have 8 outs, but that is still about 33% pot equity, so you can profitable raise 3 or more opponents if you think they will call.

Depending upon your players, a raise may also tell you if you are drawing dead or not.
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