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    Default Low level no limit holdem- Some basic queries

    Hey

    Im just woundering if any1 knows of any good starting hand requirments charts for no limit holdem as at the minute i probably play very tight i play:

    (what hellmuth advocates in play poker like the pros)

    AA Ak AQ
    KK
    QQ
    JJ
    TT
    99
    88
    77
    66
    55
    44
    33
    22

    Ak

    Ax

    Im just woundering does this very tight play increase or decrease my chances of comming out a winner?

    and oh i just remebered what i was going to ask, which hands go up in value and which go down in no limit as opposed to limit as you can see it from both sides i mean drawing hands could make you alot but also pairs can hit trips and take down a big pot?

    Should you play tight when the others play loose and vice versa im sure thats what brunson says....whereas ive heard people say when others play loose you play loose which is correct please?


    Thanks alot

    Btw to anyone who may be interested look at this site, some commentated online poker, were very interesting to me

    http://www.pokertips.org/videos/videos.php
    Last edited by tom.hunter; 06-24-2006 at 07:33 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom.hunter
    Hey

    Im just woundering if any1 knows of any good starting hand requirments charts for no limit holdem as at the minute i probably play very tight i play:

    (what hellmuth advocates in play poker like the pros)

    AA Ak AQ
    KK
    QQ
    JJ
    TT
    99
    88
    77
    66
    55
    44
    33
    22

    Ak

    Ax

    Im just woundering does this very tight play increase or decrease my chances of comming out a winner?

    and oh i just remebered what i was going to ask, which hands go up in value and which go down in no limit as opposed to limit as you can see it from both sides i mean drawing hands could make you alot but also pairs can hit trips and take down a big pot?

    Should you play tight when the others play loose and vice versa im sure thats what brunson says....whereas ive heard people say when others play loose you play loose which is correct please?


    Thanks alot

    Btw to anyone who may be interested look at this site, some commentated online poker, were very interesting to me

    http://www.pokertips.org/videos/videos.php
    Tom havent you asked this before??

    To come out a winner you will need to read, reread and reread further any books relating to NL holdem, cash game theory, or tournament theory (whichever you want to progress in) and then get practise in, play a limit your rolled for so for 0.02c/0.04c NL you would need about 2000 BIGBLINDs which in this case is 2000 * 0.04c = $80

    If you were to play the hands above and pretty much nothing else you would learn a lot about starting hand requirements, you have to know that K2 from EP is a fold because well its just isnt a great starting hand compared to something like AK, or even KT from EP. but just because you play tight doesnt mean you will be a winner, some people are never winners. The things which will determine your chances of winning are your table selection, site selection, bankroll management, determination to take badbeats the right way, a willingness to learn and learn and much more...

    If the table is loose then just wait for AA, KK , AK and push against a maniac or someone who looks as if he wants to get his/hers chips in the middle with any hand. If the table is tight then you can afford to loosen up and play stuff like J9s or 87s along those lines. Remember that the weaker hands you play will be better from late position as there wont be any nasty suprises of someone reraising you J8s with AA, if the table gets to be like that.

    In most cases:

    Dont play too many hands to begin with if your only learning the game, its a mistake a lot of players make and it makes them lose more money than needs be.

    From Early position (First 3)

    Raise with QQ+ AK, AQ (Debatable)
    Call a raise with JJ+ (Looking for set value most likely) AK, AQ
    Reraise with AA, KK

    From middle position (Middle 3)

    Raise with JJ+, AK, AQ, AJs? , KQs?
    Call a raise with QQ+ , AK
    Reraise with AA, KK, QQ-TT

    From late position (Last 3)
    Raise with ATs+, KJs+, 99+
    Call a raise with QQ+ , AK, AQ (dependant)

    *Hands in bold will differ from person to person, youll get an idea how to play them when they come up*

    Above is a very generalised situation of starting hands, people always disagree over them in my opinion, especially marginal hands like AJ and AQ. I would say its something you have to experiment with, Ive known people who have built bankrolls playing only 5 hands, the trouble is when someone catches on they just dont call anymore and your not going to make any money... You have to take a lot of things into consideration as i keep saying.
    Last edited by Dizzy_Fuzz; 06-24-2006 at 07:58 AM.

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    well dizzy tore that up but another thing that helped me when i first started playing was to play sng, i know stars has some cheaps ones $1 area and they are a great way to see a lot of hands for a low price. if you make a bad decsion in a sng you are only going to lose your buy in and not your whole stack
    If there wern't luck involed i guess id win everyone

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    playing strong preflop hands is the best way for beginners to learn to play, because postflop play with these hands is very easy.

    in low stakes NL holdem games, you always bet overpairs/top pairs pretty strongly, because everyone is bad and will call potsized bets (and lots of the time raise) with much worse holdings.

    so just play these hands, and make money.

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    drop AQ..to be frank.. at low limits ..drop AK
    See me playing $10/$20NL like it was play money

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    i suggest playing these hands:

    AA - TT.. open for a raise in any position (you may want to play TT for set value if u have trouble with this hand postflop)
    22-99.. limp and play for set value in any position
    AK AQ... open for raise in any position
    AJ.. fold in EP, limp in MP, raise in LP
    KQ QJ KJ AT... fold in EP, limp in MP and LP

    AXs... fold in EP, limp in MP and LP only if there is 1 limper or more in the pot
    67s, 78s, 89s, 9Ts, TJs... only play these hands in LP if there are 2 or more limpers PF.

    RR PF with QQ KK AA.
    RR PF with AK as long as the pf raiser didnt open from EP.
    if there is a raise before you, either raise or fold. Only call if u have a pocket pair JJ and under and are planning to play for set value.

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