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Thread: AJ limit hand

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    Default AJ limit hand

    Paradise Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with , .
    1 fold, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (6 SB) , , (6 players)
    SB bets, BB folds, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds, CO folds, SB calls.

    Turn: (6 BB) (3 players)
    SB bets, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, SB calls.

    River: (12 BB) (3 players)
    SB bets, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, SB calls.

    Final Pot: 18 BB

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    This is a strange hand. SB keeps betting into your raise, but then only calls...I have no idea what to make of that.

    I don't like the pf limp, although it is debatable either way. The 3 club flop is scary, but my take on the action is that people are still drawing. SB has me confused. If he is strong enough to lead into you each time, why isn't he re-raising?

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    Raise that shit if you're gonna open with it up front. I don't care if it's 38o. You should never be limping UTG+1. You're putting yourself on the call for the whole hand and the hand's barely even started yet. You don't wanna raise with it? Fold it.

    The SB's an idiot. He doesn't even know what the hell he's doing. I'd forget him a little bit and play your cards. I'm afraid he has a set of nines or a flush for some reason on the turn. I hate when people cold call me on the flop and lead on the turn. I'd probably call this down. This doofus has anything from the Kc down to KK, QQ, or a stupid bluff.

    UTG+2 is defintely on ESPN on a Sunday morning at 6AM. He's waiting with that Kc, but you don't know that until he cold calls the turn, which is why I don't like the turn raise. But then, he cold calls the WHOLE hand. Now, I'm thinkin' after the fact the HE has the set of 9's.

    (You didn't give us any reads, so that's why I'm bouncing around here.)

    This is tough with top 2, but you're either a huge fav or a huge dog. I'd call the turn and river. I don't know what anyone had, but everyone played this horribly.
    Last edited by the alex; 06-24-2006 at 08:31 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the alex
    Raise that shit if you're gonna open with it up front. I don't care if it's 38o. You should never be limping UTG+1. You're putting yourself on the call for the whole hand and the hand's barely even started yet. You don't wanna raise with it? Fold it.

    The SB's an idiot. He doesn't even know what the hell he's doing. I'd forget him a little bit and play your cards. I'm afraid he has a set of nines or a flush for some reason on the turn. I hate when people cold call me on the flop and lead on the turn. I'd probably call this down.

    UTG+2 is defintely on ESPN on a Sunday morning at 6AM. He's waiting with that Kc, but you don't know that until he cold calls the turn, which is why I don't like the turn raise. But then, he cold calls the WHOLE hand. Now, I'm thinkin' after the fact the HE has the set of 9's.

    (You didn't give us any reads, so that's why I'm bouncing around here.)

    This is tough with top 2, but you're either a huge fav or a huge dog. I'd call the turn and river.
    I guess Id have to raise this from EP in limit. After all it would make most hands like 4c8c and 5c6c fold which is what they both had. I didnt really have any reads on the table but felt that I was only losing to the flush.

    My biggest mistake looking back on it was trying to limp.

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    That wasn't your biggest mistake. Your biggest mistake was on the turn. You were told that SB isn't going anywhere and you were value betting a marginal hand on the expensive rounds. I will say that UTG+2 played it well, knowing what he had.
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    Dizzy, please stop limping up front like this it is awful especially with a hand like AJ. This is an easy raise or fold, depending on the table and your ability. Since you are still relatively new to the game I would suggest folding this hand up front.

    When the tables are really loose, you can limp in early position but do it with hands that play better multiway, small medium pairs, medium or big suited connectors, some suited aces and some suited broadway cards. If there is alot of raising pre-flop then obviously don't limp in EP.

    These guys seem like super donks, anyway the way you played the hand. The flop and turn are both great, can't see that river really helping out anyone but I think I just call here.

    Looks like UTG+2 has something like KJ with Kc and the SB could have just about anything maybe 2 pair or a set, the flush seems unlikely based on the action, but this guy seems clueless so who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzy_Fuzz
    I guess Id have to raise this from EP in limit. After all it would make most hands like 4c8c and 5c6c fold which is what they both had. I didnt really have any reads on the table but felt that I was only losing to the flush.

    My biggest mistake looking back on it was trying to limp.
    I dunno, these hands are frustrating obviously you can't put them both on flushes since you never once got raised, the turn got donked and by UTG+2 just calling like that it really looked more like a pair and a big draw to me.

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