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    Default Blind steal hand...

    Played only 1 hand of the last 20 hands. To an observant player, I would have appeared super tight. Truth is I was getting lousy cards and no opportunity to make a play. I told myself at the beginning of the orbit that I had to take a stand soon and steal some blinds. By the time I get the button, my M would be 3. Well, no opportunity came during the orbit... so here I am now on the BB.

    SB I read as being pretty decent. Took a lot of small pots with timely pf raises, and some big pots with legit hands. MP seemed OK; he had been chatting a bit so I thought he had been paying attention. Had made a laydown or two on big hands.

    So, long story short (too late) I decided I had to try and take the pot right now (yes, it would help not to get in this position, but it happens).

    I took a lot of heat from the table for this one, but I think my hands were tied from start to finish and I played it right. Thoughts?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)

    UTG (t4360)
    MP (t3660)
    CO (t965)
    Button (t1260)
    SB (t3555)
    Hero (t1200)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
    1 fold, MP calls t200, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to t600, MP raises to t1000, SB folds, Hero raises to t1200, MP calls t200.

    Flop: (t2600) , , (2 players)

    Turn: (t2600) (2 players)

    River: (t2600) (2 players)

    Final Pot: t2600

    Results in white below:
    MP has 3h 3d (two pair, kings and threes).
    Hero has 6c Td (two pair, kings and tens).
    Outcome: Hero wins t2600.
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    if ur planning to make a stand with this hand, then push it in PF

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    Yeah,

    What was your logic behind pushing 1/2 your stack in, knowing your are comitted to call?
    Unless it was to look like you were trying to induce an all in with a big hand - like a double bluff?

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    With my image, I thought a solid raise would project more strength than a push. Also, this sized raise was taking a lot of hand pf. I was very confident SB would fold, but slightly worried about the limper. I think MP calls a push as often as he calls/reraises my raise. I have tendency to prefer the stop and go from EP. If I'm just called pf, I have more fold equity pushing the flop, as the villain's hand is likely to miss the flop and will only have 2 cards to improve.
    Last edited by ypsieast; 06-23-2006 at 07:03 AM.
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    The hand previous you were UTG - why didn't you try this disperation move from there where it would appear more of a selected hand than a random hand as the BB is precieved? Certainly the blinds can get good cards too but the preception is that the blind hands are random (that may be Sklanski's fault!). Also from UTG, you have first vigourish (HoH) that generates fold equity vs limping hands.
    As already said, with your stack it's all-in or nothing pf. A stop and go is cute (FPS) but with only 1200 and 2 limpers already in, you need the maximum fold equity you can muster. Without first vigourish, your bluff/steal may get one limper to fold but seldom two - that only seems to happen when you want callers!

    Gutsy move from the BB and it got good results. MP was correct to limp in the first place but his re-r was dumb on 2 accounts. 1st, it was only a min re-r leaving you 200 and 2nd, he didn't have the hand for a re-r. This guy isn't as aware as you thought!
    Last edited by Aces-o-8s; 06-23-2006 at 01:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aces-o-8s
    MP was correct to limp in the first place but his re-r was dumb on 2 accounts. 1st, it was only a min re-r leaving you 200 and 2nd, he didn't have the hand for a re-r. This guy isn't as aware as you thought!
    Agreed. When he started heckling me for playing T6o, I had to laugh. In the long run, his play with 33 was much worse than my stand with T6o.

    You're right about making a play from UTG. Can't remember why I didn't. Probably decided to pass with a gawd awful hand like 83o or something.
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