Sattelite tournament, currently 1/45 38 get seats....
Now, this is a 2 part question.... How do you play this hand in this particular situation. I think the better question, how do you play this hand if your the CL in a big ticket tournament where the situation is the same, or say maybe the blinds are halved, but there is a rather large payday instead of a smallish one.... BB is a donk who was ticketed for an early exit but woke up with a couple of hands and had just won a big pot to double up. But for arguments sake, lets say he's a good solid player and has been pretty straightforward..
This is sometimes where I cant find my game, and although I got to the top, and do it regularly in these tournies, staying there sometimes a problem so once again, I humbly seek the help of the wisemen here on PFO....
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (9 handed) CP hand converter
Button (t37090)
Hero (t33350)
BB (t32090)
UTG (t8150)
UTG+1 (t2245)
MP1 (t6242)
MP2 (t28524)
MP3 (t26437)
CO (t2340)
Preflop: Hero is SB with,
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1 fold, UTG+1 calls t1945 (All-In), 6 folds.
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06-21-2006 #1River Rat
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Bubble play... What do you do....
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06-21-2006 #2
I call for a recount. This is more than 2 parts, right:
Originally Posted by Just_dude
Originally Posted by Just_dude
"There is a good chance I gave you a very bad description of something that doesn't work."
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06-21-2006 #3River Rat
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Yeah, I noticed that after I posted.. I *was* in first until that hand... Yes, more than 2 parts...
Originally Posted by ypsieast
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06-21-2006 #4
There is a mistake in the HH, unless you actually folded pf. 1 fold, UTG+1 call, 6 folds = 8 players acted, only BB left. Correct me if I'm wrong... situation is UTG calls all in with his last chips and it folds to you in SB. BB still to act. UTG+1 had 2245 in chips to start, but calls 1945. Does this mean the ante is 300?
Originally Posted by Just_dude
300 ante x 9
3000 SB
6000 BB
1945 call by UTG+1
Pot = 13645
Actually, Pot = 8535 and side pot = 5110
Its 3000 for you to call to win either 13645 (4.5:1) or 5110 (1.7:1)
Those are good pot odds.
Depending on what's playable to the BB here, I would probably raise to win the 5k and take my chances vs. the UTG+1. If BB is a calling station, just call, hope he checks and take your chances with a 3 way flop. Check it down, unless you make 2 pair, trips or the flush. Fold to any bets by him."There is a good chance I gave you a very bad description of something that doesn't work."
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06-21-2006 #5
You have a better than average hand and the all-in is less than 10% of your stack - clear call! The only problem remains the BB and what he does.
Originally Posted by Just_dude
This close to the prize you don't wnat to take foolish chances but here is an opportunity to eliminate a player at little cost up front and depending on the BB probably none there after if you can check it down or you get a good flop to defend with.

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06-21-2006 #6River Rat
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Originally Posted by ypsieast
You are correct in your math.... HH isn't spot on...
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06-22-2006 #7
Ok, am I clear on the situation here:
You're the CL, 45 players remain. 38 will get paid out satellite seats.
I think doing anything other than folding here is a huge -$EV play.
I can't even see calling with AA necessarily.
Here's why: 38th Place = 1st place. You already have way more than your share of tournament $ equity, so those chips are actually worth almost nothing to you. The in your stack are worth more than all the rest of the chips in the tournament in terms of real $.
All you have to do is survive 7 players going out. I'd just log off and count it as a win. . . . .Last edited by Jason75; 06-22-2006 at 12:45 AM.
Jason75: Ok, you check and the button bets 400. Now what?
Beavis68: You play poker.
Jason75: Darn, I was really hoping for canasta. Maybe Gin.
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06-22-2006 #8
I would call and check/fold it down you have a chance to take someone out and if BB isn't an idoit you prolly will and then i would prolly sit on my hands since 6 or maybe 7 more ppl have to lose to get paid
If there wern't luck involed i guess id win everyone
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06-22-2006 #9
Well maybe not so clear!
Originally Posted by Aces-o-8s
I reserve the right to change my mind!
Jason makes a very important point in that 38th place is the same as 1st place so with your stack, you're virually inside the bubble already while others will be struggling to get ITM. With one of the 1st places virually tied up there is no sense in getting involved in any more hands. I have to keep reminding myself in SnGs that no-one elected me sherriff so I do not have an obligation to eliminate shortstacks just b/c I may be one of the chip leaders - In this tourney with 38 1st prizes and yours already in the bag, there is no need to play sherriff either.

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06-22-2006 #10River Rat
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Which is exactly what I did.. I've been down this road alot in these tournies and it was a no brainer... It was an easy fold in this situation...
Originally Posted by Jason75
My bigger question is what do you do if your the CL in this situation, and say the final table pays at least $1K with first over $10K??? I'm starting to get to this point in other tournies, and this is where I usually run into trouble.. I *was* going to raise this to isolate, but knowing I was already golden I just layed it down. I had already layed down AK, AQ, and QQ in the previous 10 hands, but they were in LP against T20-25K ish stacks that pushed and I didn't feel like going to war, it wasn't necessary.. I probably would have had around T80K had I called any of them, because I would have won every race/hand....
I didn't want this to be results orientated, but coincidentally the rest of the hand looked like this:
Flop: (t4645)
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(2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: (t4645)
(2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (t4645)
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: t4645
Results in white below:
BB has 6s 2d (one pair, nines).
UTG+1 has 8c Qc (two pair, nines and eights).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins t2700. BB wins t1945.
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