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12-31-2004, 08:36 AM
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not sure about this hand
I sucked out, but I feel like I played this well, and my opponent should have dumped his hand (in several places).
http://www.pokerhand.org/index.php?page=view&hand=24929
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12-31-2004, 08:59 AM
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I donk off Wota's $$$
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I love when someone (your opponent) plays a hand horribly, gets lucky and hits, and then loses!!!!
Way to go Beavis!
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12-31-2004, 09:06 AM
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I donk off Wota's $$$
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On a more serious note when he calls your bet on the flop you should put him on at least top pair.
when he bets 30 on the turn I just call. Why take the chance of you being beaten for all your chips when you have 2 strong draws? Just call the 30 and see if you hit, couldn't ask for better odds than 30 chips.
Usually those minimum bets into the aggressor are to keep you from betting him out of the hand or to get you to come over the top, in this case you were pretty far behind.
I like everything you did except for the all in. I hate evrything your opponent did.
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12-31-2004, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve-O
On a more serious note when he calls your bet on the flop you should put him on at least top pair.
when he bets 30 on the turn I just call. Why take the chance of you being beaten for all your chips when you have 2 strong draws? Just call the 30 and see if you hit, couldn't ask for better odds than 30 chips.
Usually those minimum bets into the aggressor are to keep you from betting him out of the hand or to get you to come over the top, in this case you were pretty far behind.
I like everything you did except for the all in. I hate evrything your opponent did.
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Yeah, I agree, the all-in was a huge over-bet. I just hate min bets like that, it kind of puts me on tilt!
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12-31-2004, 11:52 AM
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Your opponent is a bad player and doesn't seem to be the kind to be bluffed easily. And he sure wasn't here. And on the flop, your raise was a bluff, since you don't have anything at this point. So at best this is a call IMO. I'd throw the hand away unless I knew the guy bets with nothing, because even a pair at all has you beat here.
I don't know why you went all-in on the turn. You don't want to semi-bluff with all your chips. Unless your opponent is a total moron, the only way he can call this is if he has you beat, and all you have is ace high here.
Pretty wild playing on both ends here
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12-31-2004, 02:10 PM
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The raise on the flop is a little questionable, but on the turn, the all-in is not that bad. He has 20 outs going into the river, if you put him on top pair. He finds out that it is 18 outs, but still good. I might have just called, or made a small raise. But the crazy side of me says the push was good. 
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12-31-2004, 02:41 PM
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change my title babo
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Since you're notes say this guy is an idiot, why waste the stack you were building up on basically a 45% shot? I have't ran the numbers yet, but if oyu put him on AQ you're really not getting a good deal.
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12-31-2004, 03:42 PM
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If I would have put him on AQ, I would not have called the flop.
I figured he had a very weak hand, either middle pair, or a club flush draw. I really felt he had something that he SHOULD have folded.
At the time I had questions about this play, that is why I saved the hand history.
Thanks for the comments.
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01-01-2005, 10:01 AM
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change my title babo
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That's pretty dumb to say. He should have made a mistake on that hand, but he played it correctly! What an idiot.
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01-01-2005, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bonchkid
That's pretty dumb to say. He should have made a mistake on that hand, but he played it correctly! What an idiot.
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Who are you calling an idiot?
And there is no way you can say that making min bets into a giant pot with a very vulnerable hand is correct play. Or that his PF call was correct play.
Last edited by Beavis68; 01-01-2005 at 10:10 AM.
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