I think this is the 4th hand I've posted on this. Anyway, reread my notebook the other day after seeing the Mobber awards, and I decided to finish posting some of the more interesting hands.

When last we left hero, the blinds were 25/50 and we'd just more than doubled up to 3475 (from our starting stack of around 1500) when we hit a set of dueces and busted a player in seat 8 (we're in Seat 1). It's 1 orbit later, still the beginning of the tournament (about 1 hour in).

Here's a recap of the reads so far: Beginning of the tournament about 50 minutes in. The 25/25 level played extremely tight, this level is loosening up. Only reads so far is that seat 4's hand shakes like a motherfucker when he hits a big hand (FH on the turn and the guy goes epileptic when he bets out), and that the woman in Seat 2 (who looks like your grandmother) plays in every circut event with her husband for the past bazillion years, but has a nasty habit of looking at her cards when seat 10 (other side of the dealer) is acting. Seat 3 seems really dead serious about everything . . . won't even laugh at my jokes between hands (which ARE Funny dammit).

Blinds 25/50, about 20 mins to go in the round

Current Hand: We're in the SB, it's a 9 handed table because they still haven't replaced the guy I busted. Previous hand, seat 2 (now the BB) got a big pot with KK (which she didn't raise before the flop and just check/called the whole way against 2 other players). She now has almost as many chips as I do. Rest of the table is around 1500, 2 players who will not be in this hand have about 800.

The PF Action: UTG (seat 3) folds, UTG+1 calls 50, MP calls 50, MP+1 folds, MP+2 calls 50, CO folds, Button calls 50

Jason is in the SB. The lady next to me is so busy stacking her chips, she hasn't looked at her hand yet. I stall a bit to try and get a read, but she's still stacking. Oh well, she seems pretty passive. We look down to find:



There's 275 in the pot, and given our 25 SB it's 25 to call. What do we do?

There are too many people in the pot. Your position sucks. It's early and everyone thinks they're clever. You don't wanna raise obviously for these reasons and your hand is weak. You need to flop a flush. You don't wanna get in the middle of draws. You have a strong stack in a bad position in a family pot. The family pot says, "Yeah. Call and hope."

But your green chip might as well be dead if you put it in the middle if you don't flop a flush, set, and 2 pair is marginal in your position. But the potential gain is huge this early. Your implied odds are too sweet to fold.

Complete the blind. If she raises, it's not necessarily a monster because she wants to buy time. People like her piss me off to no end. (When they're next to me, I purposely stack fast to try to be a example. It always ends up making me more mad because they don't learn.) Even the most passive person will raise late in the PF action while they're stacking because they want to end the hand fast to buy a little more time. I wouldn't be surprised if she checked blind either. This is an added risk because you can't stand a raise, nor do you want to make a raise.

But still worth it in donkeyville.

That said, I'm never gonna fault someone for PF aggression. If you're gonna raise, really pop it up there to 300-350. She'll only call with a monster and I think the 4 others won't stand this. But, too early and too much risk to collect 275. You have the chips to get information before investing and the table to get money after you get information. That information is your next 3 cards.

EDIT: Got some #'s wrong.

See a flop! And if the BB makes a smallish raise, you'll get the odds.

Originally Posted by Jason75

Stacks:
UTG+1, MP, MP+1, MP+2, button 1300-2000
Jason (SB) 3400
BB 2975

The PF Action: UTG (seat 3) folds, UTG+1 calls 50, MP calls 50, MP+1 folds, MP+2 calls 50, CO folds, Button calls 50

My PF Action: Well, I really thought about raising here to take the pot and test the table while it's still cheap, but since I'd just doubled up, I played it safe and flat called hoping to hit a miracle flop. BB checks . . .

And here's the miracle:

Flop (300):

We've got the wheel, and are only beat by exactly 67 and 62.
We're first to act, what do we do?

raise and see who sticks around, then on the turn we raise agian and if we get reraised well have to make a decision...
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Ferrari 312p specifications

I'm betting at least full pot here.

This pot is worth taking right now, you dont want more than one person seeing a turn with you. And you might get action (re-raise) from a overpair. Check-raise is there if you really think a bet is likely...

Good news - u flopped a made str8
Bad news - u have the idiot end
Good news - it's a bicycle (wheel) so few would be holding low cards to get a better str8.
Bad news - there are always a few that do play low cards at this level so a higher str8 is possible
Good news - the board is rainbow so a flush is runner-runner
Bad news - Your OOP
Good news - board is not paired so 2 pair or hidden set are next best possible hands
Bad news - any 2 pair or set is going to dance all the way to sd or go all-in!

All in all, this is a pretty strong hand but still vunerable and one I would want to take down quickly - no slowplaying to turn or river. BUT if I could count on at least one of the limpers to bet out I would go for a ck-raise for a pot size bet or overbet to try and get this won on the flop! Otherwise I would lead out with 300 - 400 looking for a quick win. If called I'd look at the turn card and if a blank apply the max pressure for a win - all-in! If raised I'm all-in on the flop to apply maximum pressure for the win or get someone to make a big mistake chasing the 2 remaining draws.
Damn I dislike idiot ended str8s -