Hypothetical

gder03 · #1 (**permalink**) 06-14-2006, 01:05 AM

*Hand 1*

6 handed game 50nl. average table. no maniacs, no total donks. just regular loose game.

hero is in the CO with JJ

fold, villain raises to 1.75, fold, hero calls, fold, fold, fold.

flop: A T 5 rainbow

villain bets 4.00
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*Hand 2*

6 handed game 50nl. average table. no maniacs, no total donks. just regular loose game.

hero is in the CO with J5

fold, villain raises to 1.75, fold, hero calls, fold, fold, fold.

flop: A J 7 rainbow

villain bets 4.00
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Hero will probably fold both flops. Hero played hand 1 marginally weak (imo). Hero played hand 2 very loose by calling pf (scientific fact).

Which hand would you rather call with on the flop? (if you didnt really feel like folding)
Which hand would you rather raise with on the flop? (if you didnt really feel like folding)

what if the JJ in hand 1 was KK? and you missclicked "call" instead of raising, how would you approach flop?

Eclipse86 · #2 (**permalink**) 06-14-2006, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gder03

Which hand would you rather call with on the flop? (if you didnt really feel like folding)

J5, more outs to outdraw that A. Unless villian has AJ, then ur fucked.

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Originally Posted by gder03

Which hand would you rather raise with on the flop? (if you didnt really feel like folding)

J5 - same reason. More outs.

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Originally Posted by gder03

what if the JJ in hand 1 was KK? and you missclicked "call" instead of raising, how would you approach flop?

same as with the JJ, fold flop.

good post btw.. this could definately stir some good discussion

OrionPro · #3 (**permalink**) 06-14-2006, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gder03

Which hand would you rather call with on the flop? (if you didnt really feel like folding)

No call - push JJ or fold

gder03 · #4 (**permalink**) 06-14-2006, 02:00 PM

When i have KK or QQ, ill sometimes call the flop bet b/c I dont wanna believe that they hit the Ace. I will then dump the hand on the turn If they bet again.

This loses money.

Yet, if I have midlle pair crap kicker, I'll fold w/o hesitation, when infact I am in better shape. Its kind of a mental thing b/c I know its 2 outs v.s 5 outs.

tom.hunter · #5 (**permalink**) 06-18-2006, 06:18 AM

my initial reaction was fold hand 1 and call with hand 2 but i though about it and on hand 2 if he has j in his holes then youve got huge kicker trouble, it really depends on what kind of playter he is in my eyes a calling station etc and i'd see him through most likly but a tight more conservative player i'd fold