Overaggressive or a solid move?

**SeanyBullets1** · 06-13-2006

He sat and thought about the call for about 15 seconds before going on with the hand.

ALSO, I limped with the intention of coming back over a raise so what I did was my plan all along.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) CP hand converter

MP2 (t1305)
CO (t1570)
Button (t1370)
SB (t1900)
BB (t3900)
Hero (t1670)
UTG+1 (t1650)
MP1 (t1610)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with

,

.
Hero calls t30, 2 folds, MP2 calls t30, 3 folds, BB raises to t180, Hero raises to t1670, MP2 folds, BB calls t1490.

Flop: (t3385)

,

(2 players)

Turn: (t3385)

(2 players)

River: (t3385)

(2 players)

Final Pot: t3385

Results in white below:
BB has Qc As (high card, ace).
Hero has Ad Kh (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins t3385.

**OrionPro** · 06-13-2006

You have few other options. Calling is weak and raising will make you pot-committed.

Assuming it was a micro- I realize now it's push or fold in those. There's just no other bets that accomplish anything.

**Irexes** · 06-13-2006

I occassionally do this with AK (a lot more with AA and KK utg). Usually though AK is a hand to like this preflop later in MTTs with big blinds and decent preflop pots with good fold equity rather than early in a SnG.

It's not a bad move, but I think the call preflop is better in the long run as you have disguised your AK really well and are in a strong position to win a big pot or lose a little one which is nice.

There's also the lure of the over-fancy-play with this kind of thing, which if you are not careful becomes a leak with no-one raises and you are up against the blinds on a flop of K73 and have no idea where you stand.

Aggression = good though

**SeanyBullets1** · 06-13-2006

This the first time I've tried this and obviously, it paid off this time. I think it gives the impression that my opponent will have two overs to my med. pair because "wouldn't I just min. raise with my big hand????"

Not something I'm going to do very often though.

**Irexes** · 06-13-2006

It's good fun with AA utg and you get called with a massive range of crap.

Got to be able to let it go when there's no raise though

**OrionPro** · 06-13-2006

Problem with calling is he's in position.

If AQ tried a c/bet he has a problem with this flop...

**Irexes** · 06-13-2006

But because of position he gets first stab at the CB with his AK whatever the flop and the initial limp makes it very to put him on a range of hands.

(edit: my mistake it's the bb who raised. Seany has position post flop.)

**Jason75** · 06-13-2006

The problem is that you'll often find you're up against a pair. You'd be surprised (or maybe you wouldn't) how many players will reraise like this with 44 in the BB to a sea of limpers, then call your all in (and be at best 50%!!!).

I like the flat call here, and let it go on the flop if you don't hit a pair (because a lot of the time you'll be behind).

If you want to give this a try, record the results of doing this 20 times (limp/ donk raises/ you're all in) at these or similarly low blinds and post the results.

I'd be interested in seeing them.

Specifically, how many callers each time and what positions and hands, how many times you win uncontested, stack to pot ratio for each hand, and the outcome of each hand (T$won/lost).

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