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    Default Top pair and a Flush draw

    2nd hand of a $22 SnG, first hand was folded round.

    If I'm on the cut off I fold preflop, if no-one bets preflop I fold, if it's min raised I fold. I play super tight early in these but highish suited connectors with limpers on the button I will occassionally play (my previous tourney I played one of the first 39 hands, not that anyone at the tables knows that).

    Anyway, what do you do on the flop?

    ***** Hand History for Game 4508105249 *****
    NL Texas Hold'em $22 Buy-in Trny:24799989 Level:1 Blinds(20/40) - Tuesday, June 13, 17:51:26 ET 2006
    Table Daylight Hours (Real Money)
    Seat 10 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 7: hook_em_97 ( $2000 )
    Seat 8: marlowisws ( $2000 )
    Seat 6: WoodMann ( $2000 )
    Seat 9: SaintLukeIII ( $2000 )
    Seat 1: dpphildo ( $2020 )
    Seat 3: jlocket ( $2000 )
    Seat 10: Irexes ( $1980 )
    Seat 4: Mick3 ( $2000 )
    Seat 2: TheJackal24 ( $2000 )
    Seat 5: CappyEFC ( $2000 )
    Trny:24799989 Level:1
    Blinds(20/40)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Irexes [ ]
    jlocket folds.
    Mick3 folds.
    CappyEFC calls [40].
    WoodMann folds.
    hook_em_97 folds.
    marlowisws calls [40].
    SaintLukeIII folds.
    Irexes calls [40].
    dpphildo calls [20].
    TheJackal24 checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
    dpphildo checks.
    TheJackal24 checks.
    CappyEFC bets [100].
    marlowisws calls [100].
    Irexes??????

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    I'd prolly pot it or more (400-500), definatly a favorite over most hands here, but if the turn comes or some other blank/overcard your not gonna be happy...
    BB is t100
    Preflop: Hero is UTG with :3d :5d,
    Hero raises to t500

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    you are still a dog to a better kicker.

    You could call and raise to 2 or 300 here.

    I may just call though against two player, dont want to get blown off the pot.

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    Wow, thats gotta be a leak for me, your right. Your more than a 2:1 dog against a higher kicker... ignore my post.
    BB is t100
    Preflop: Hero is UTG with :3d :5d,
    Hero raises to t500

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    YOU ARE WEAK AND LOOSE. JUST LIKE AN OLD HOOKER! BAD HOOKER! BAD!

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    Call and if no scare comes on turn but you still miss your flush or two pair...pot it.
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    Normaly I like to end the action pretty quicly on this type of hands taking minimum risk...

    I would pot it. If you are called, it means you need to improve to win the hand, but you have probably loads of outs. You can also force AT to fold to that kind of bet.

    If they both fold, you take a decent pot, and if they reraise, lets see what kind of odds they give you.... you still have chips to play if you decide to fold.

    I think with a raise here, you will win bigger pots of course, and the time you'll losse, you will loose approx the same amount you would have by just calling the flop. Considering there is good chances you will also have a bet to call on turn if you just call flop.

    If its a 1000 chips STT like Noble's SNGs, it another ball game... you cant pot it.... it will leave you with only 500 chips... but here you have the room to make that move IMO.

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    Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!

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    raise it... it will disguise you flush draw... you might even have the best hand now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis68
    I may just call though against two player, dont want to get blown off the pot.
    Definitely. You don't wanna give your opponent a second chance to make the right move if he has 22 or 33. You're about a coin flip against AT, but it's too early. I'm calling here. Way too early.
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    so what happened?
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    Thanks chaps,

    This should be interesting...

    Irexes is all-In [1940]
    dpphildo is all-In [1980]
    TheJackal24 folds.
    CappyEFC is all-In [1860]
    marlowisws folds.

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