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Old 06-12-2006, 05:16 PM
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Hero ($63.10)
UTG ($43.90)
MP ($14.20)
CO ($25.03)
Button ($50.40)
SB ($27.42)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , . SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $2, UTG folds, SB calls $2.

Flop: ($4.50) , , (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB raises to $8, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($20.50) (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5.

River: ($30.50) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $30.50

i had been playing agressive, no read on opponnent.

obviously i played it safe, but was that the right move?

if the river wasnt so scary, could i value bet? (a non J or heart, Jh is the worst card in the deck imo)
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Old 06-12-2006, 05:19 PM
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If you concerned with value betting the river, you must think your ahead. In which case you should have raised the turn up, looks like a blocking bet to me. But I'm def not betting this river either.
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Old 06-12-2006, 05:24 PM
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i thought i was ahead more than 50% of the time, but usually the min raise indicates great strength

i probably wouldnt bet a safe river either, as you can see i wanted a cheap showdown
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Old 06-12-2006, 05:27 PM
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I got that, but I dont think pot control = giving your oppoents odds to draw. Mabye its b/c where I play I see min-raises all the freakin time, so I dont give em too much respect.
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Old 06-12-2006, 05:38 PM
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typically from what ive seen min raises indicate a pretty good hand

but who knows
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Old 06-12-2006, 05:46 PM
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You could be up against JT. He was double gutted on the flop or has a BAD K.
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Old 06-12-2006, 05:55 PM
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i thought i was ahead more than 50% of the time, but usually the min raise indicates great strength
looks like he's on a draw?
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:42 PM
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you played this good imo.. i woulda played it the same..
im definately not betting the river...

good pot control as well, you dont really want to raise turn deepstacked, for fear of KQ 88
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would you call a 20$ bet on the turn? if no, then I think you should fold flop.
that said, I dont fold b/c its A frea'n K. Ill prolly c/r the turn b/c his bet looks so weak. I c/r turn all in.
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if he was drawing to a flush he makes it,in which he shoulda value bet on river so that possibility is out the window, i don't see anyone playing a oesd really that aggressivly with flush possibility out there (leaving the essentially 6 outs), and min raise in this situation really means nothing cause sum ppl are just to lazy to fix the tab to a certain amount. He may have check raised kq or q8 to protect against the flush and got scared when the jh came, or he has a k with kicker problems and tried to take the lead in the hand. One thing i know about weak players (which i'll just assume he is) is that they rarely check raise while bluffing and always with strength. I'd say on a guess q8 or a k with kicker problems. Small possibility of 88.. but on how you played that hand i liked it, that board in that situation creates a variety of dangerous hands which could beat ak...
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