K, I took Deme's advice and now mix up my shortstacking and deepstacking. I usually play 30-50 hands short and get an idea about the table and the players then usually top up to the max buy-in and play deep. So far it is working good.
Now that you have some reads you can play the players. One of the most common mistakes I have noticed is players min-reraising when they have AA or KK, deeped stacked this is awful since you get no implied odds on a safe flop and the better opponents will pick up on it.
Example:
This afternoon playing .5/1 NL on Betfred, 10 player game
Hero is on the CO andhad 300$ in chips (doubled up off a few idiots already)
The button had about 80$
The BB had 65$
Hero is dealt![]()
Folded to hero who decides to raise to 4$ total, button calls, BB raises to 7$ total (min raise), hero and button call.
Flop (21.50$ pot)
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BB bets out 20$, Hero raises it to 60 total, button folds, BB calls and goes all in.
Turn and river were blanks
BB berates the hero for being a fish, hero explains he is new to poker and explains how he has a hard time folding suited cards.
Anyway I was just pointing out how stupid min-reraises are with big hands, I got lucky hitting the flop but I had major implied outs for hitting my flush, straight, trips or 2-pair. If you are going to raise-RAISE.
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Thread: Common dumb plays in NL cash
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06-11-2006 #1Poker Hustler
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Common dumb plays in NL cash
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06-11-2006 #2
standard stacking there, good advice, nh
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06-11-2006 #3
I'll use the min. re-raise very sparcely only isolate and trap and that requires me acting immediately after a well-sized 4-6bb raise to induce all-in. The guy's gotta be a real fish for me to do it, too. Like I said, very sparcely. Even when I get this situation, I'll do it 1 in 4 times with AA or KK of these rare situations. Maybe 3 in 4 in 6max.
The only I've ever used the min. raise is to induce a right here-right now all in. But it's dangerous, which is why it sickens me to see it. Call it arrogance, but I trust my instincts and if I feel that it's the right spot, I'll do it with a huge hand on the flop/turn/river. Not menaing one pair. I don't give a fuck how big and hidden the pair. Once you've seen 5 cards, one pair of Aces isn't huge.
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06-11-2006 #4
yeah perhaps ill use the min raise to bleed somones stack into the pot on the turn or so with the absolute nuts, but never with a vunerable hands like 2 pair or AA pf
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06-11-2006 #5
the only time i will use a min raise is if its heads up or 3 way in a PF raised pot and i just flopped a set on the PF raiser, who has bet the ps into me.
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06-11-2006 #6
How can you not love the players that can't wait to get stacked with monster pairs.
Min-raising pre-flop must be on of the worst moves in cash games, especially out of position.
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