converter does not work ill try to make it bareable

i had sat down like 3 hands ago, the only thing i saw the villian do was show a big bluff after calling a raise with 24o in like a $20 pot or so

***** Hand History for Game 4475265732 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, June 09, 15:20:18 ET 2006
Table Table 108012 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: noscular ( $83.10 )
Seat 4: inoUh8yurf8 ( $43.10 )
Seat 5: mainshippilot ( $210.13 )
Seat 3: wesman46 ( $47.75 )
Seat 6: Barnett124 ( $0 )
inoUh8yurf8 posts small blind [$0.25].
mainshippilot posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to wesman46 [ Ac Ah ]
noscular raises [$1].
wesman46 raises [$5.50].
noscular: nh
inoUh8yurf8 folds.
mainshippilot: thx
mainshippilot folds.
noscular calls [$4.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 2d, 2h ]
noscular checks.
wesman46 bets [$8].
noscular is all-In [$79.60]


would you call or fold and why

ill tell you what i thought her range was and what actually happened after a few people reply

it is four handed, and I have aces. A decent chunk of your stack is already in the pot anyway.

I call because any average player could make that move with KK, QQ, JJ.

Given that hes been shown to bluff can probably throw in hands like 99/88/AK/AQ aswell.

He may also have any 10 which we are beating.

He may have TT or a 2, in which case I pay him off.

In my opinion calling is +EV irrespective of results.

Originally Posted by WotaWaster

I call because any average player could make that move with KK, QQ, JJ.

Given that hes been shown to bluff can probably throw in hands like 99/88/AK/AQ aswell.

He may also have any 10 which we are beating.

He may have TT or a 2, in which case I pay him off.

In my opinion calling is +EV irrespective of results.

im not saying you are wrong but i didnt put KK in her range b/c she would have re raised me preflop with KK

in fact, her handrange (or so i thought) was at LEAST: jj, qq, AdXd, AxTx, TT
this was a minimum. she had just shown down a bluff so her hand might have been weaker and her range might have included like 66+, TxXx, etc

so i really didnt think hard about it and called, spiked an ace on the river and cracked her t's full of 2's. yay me:rockpoker
next hand, stacked her with quad 4's

i posted this not because i thought i should fold, i wanted to see what people thought the checkraise meant from an agressive player. wotawaster gave me the answer i wanted, as he put her on an actual range of hands, not just "i have aces, i call" because this was my usual action until recently
myself and others should be thinking about hand ranges more when we are in pots. i was talking to my friend last night, and this seems so simple but i never did it! he told me, "every hand. think: what hands that i beat call? what hands that beat me fold? then when calling : what hands make that bet? am i ahead of this range?"

I would discount KK and QQ, and probably even AK since you are short handed, I would expect a reraise with those hands. I would expect 55-99 and a bunch of over card hands, AT, KT, QT, JT.

Originally Posted by KINGJACK

However, pretty sure you lost it, cause this hand would'nt be the object of interogations!

KJ

no i won he had t's full and i spiked an ace on the river

lol

I find an increasing number of players calling with AA/KK as they think they are trapping.