I'm a terrible bluffer, right?

**eclinchy** · 12-28-2004

I had been getting pretty bad starting hands for the first couple rounds of this tourney, so I was seen as fairly tight. I thought I'd try stealing a pot here with a modest hand like K-10, but it got way out of control. When should I have given up? I thought based on my observation so far that this guy was fairly tight, but apparently not. Go ahead, tell me how badly I fucked this up.

***** Hand History for Game 1360172047 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:8225975 Level:1 Blinds (10/15) - Tuesday, December 28, 19:57:59 EDT 2004
Table Multi-Table(187971) Table #37 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: EvanWithAnS ( $1085 )
Seat 2: kozarica1 ( $1105 )
Seat 3: preapproved ( $780 )
Seat 4: UrmaBlume ( $920 )
Seat 5: Kronads ( $1590 )
Seat 6: XXXStar ( $985 )
Seat 7: Fishin4Nutz ( $1230 )
Seat 8: chrislins ( $850 )
Seat 9: parkie ( $735 )
Seat 10: jaypz4 ( $675 )
Trny:8225975 Level:1
Blinds (10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvanWithAnS [

]
Fishin4Nutz folds.
chrislins folds.
parkie folds.
jaypz4 folds.
EvanWithAnS calls [15].
kozarica1 folds.
preapproved calls [15].
UrmaBlume folds.
Kronads calls [5].
XXXStar checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [

,

]
Kronads checks.
XXXStar checks.
EvanWithAnS bets [50].
preapproved folds.
Kronads calls [50].
XXXStar folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [

]
Kronads checks.
EvanWithAnS bets [115].
Kronads calls [115].
** Dealing River ** [

]
Kronads checks.
EvanWithAnS bets [215].
Kronads calls [215].
EvanWithAnS shows [

,

] a pair of jacks.
Kronads shows [

,

] a pair of jacks.
Kronads wins 820 chips from the main pot with a pair of jacks with ace kicker.

**bonchkid** · 12-28-2004

Did your notes say anything aobut this guy calling down with Ace high? They should.

**eclinchy** · 12-28-2004

Heh... he hadn't tried that play on me yet.

Just pushed him all in with AJ on a J52 flop, he calls me and catches a king on the river to beat me with AK. Not too fond of this guy.

Good thing I had him waaaaay covered... I'm still in the hunt I guess.

**eclinchy** · 12-28-2004

Hahahaha... the saga continues. I raised to 4xBB with KK, he called me thinking it was a steal. Flop comes K82, check check, turn is a ten, check check, river is an ace, I bet pot-size, he raises, I call, he shows A2.

edit: LOL, just read the hand history... apparently I was wrong, the flop was K83. He had just the one pair, no kicker.

**bonchkid** · 12-28-2004

Dont slow play in SnG or very rarely.

**eclinchy** · 12-28-2004

Not a SNG... it's a multitabler... but why not though?

**Mrwaffles** · 12-29-2004

I always get into trouble when I slowplay, so now I try to use it sparingly. I mainly only slowplay now if Im pretty sure im way ahead in the hand, like with a set or a straight.

P.S. I dont see that much wrong with your play except maybee you could bet more on the turn to represent the jack, but somepeople cant put down a big starting hand no matter whats on the board

**bonchkid** · 12-29-2004

Lets go to Sklansky
In most cases, for a slowplay to be correct, all of the following must be true:
1.) You must have a very strong hand.
2.) The free or cheap card you are allowing other players to take must have a strong possibility of making them a second-best hand.
3.) That free card must have little chance of making someone a better hand than yours or even giving that person a draw to a better hand than yours.
4.) You must be sure you will drive other players out by showing aggresion, but you have a good chance of winning a big pot if you don't.
5.) The pot must not be very large

**bonchkid** · 12-29-2004

If you raised to 4xBB and he called the pot is already large enough to justify a bet.
On fourth there is a good chance he is calling with any 2 cards over 9.

**bonchkid** · 12-29-2004

If you flop a boat vs a flush draw in a small pot is one thing, but top set in a raised pot is different.

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