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Old 06-07-2006, 12:40 PM
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tell me i can get away. had about $140 in a 1/2 live nl game
villian is old and bad
just lost about a $400 pot (2 outer)

i have kk UTG. my table image is VERY very agressive.(my friend was at the casino with me he said for his birthday he wants me to "Talk trash" and "show every bluff" so i had built my stack basically just playing like an agressive douche, table was 1/2 weak tight 1/2 loose passive) i had built my stack with agressive steals, 2 hands before i had a big stack, i might seem like im tilting here

i make it $12 all day with
3 callers including old man who would have raised with JJ+ cold called with anything else

i am first to act on the flop of

this will be my 2nd hand actually betting with a made hand. i lead out $30,
fold fold, old man cannot get his chips in faster, he raises $91 more, all in.

against a tight player i might consider getting away, however, my image was outrageous (i literally bet every flop i saw, and it was working, the table was not happy) i thought his range was huge here. the only hand that i thought he would have that beat me was 77. it could have been an outright bluff, he could have had 88-tt, or any jack.

so i called and lost to 77

please make me feel better and tell me i must call
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Old 06-07-2006, 01:13 PM
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great read.... but it went a bit downhill after that....
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Dude, gotta go with your reads . . . .

Otherwise, why are you making them?

If you think the guy is making this call with AJ or KJ . . . then I could see it. But you're not saying that, you're actually put him on the hand he has . . . 77.

Trust in the force, young jedi. . . .
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48+30+91=168 60 to call. over 2.5:1

I am not folding that.
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Old 06-07-2006, 02:12 PM
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Way to go with your reads. Nice hand.

If you're getting this much action when you raise, I'll tell you what I told Jenna. Raise it up to $20 or $25 with AA-JJ and AK from any position. Do the same with TT-77 and AQ in late position. Play nothing else except cheap limps in late position where you can get your AXs's, lo pairs, and LSC's in.

I played a $500NL game at the casino for a long time when it was the only NL game they offered. Casino NL should be played super-supertight. You only need to win one big pot for it to be worthwhile and you will, doing this. The action is guaranteed.
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Dude, gotta go with your reads . . . .

Otherwise, why are you making them?

If you think the guy is making this call with AJ or KJ . . . then I could see it. But you're not saying that, you're actually put him on the hand he has . . . 77.

Trust in the force, young jedi. . . .
no i didnt say "he has 77, call"

if 77 was the only hand in his range i would have folded (but so narrow of a range is rare)

i thought he would make the play with 77, along with any jack, and a few other pp's

basically at the casino i call this all day long but i just felt completely shitty that i went from about a $600 stack to $0 via AA and KK

i guess this should be me bitching in river rats
oh well
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i thought his range was huge here. the only hand that i thought he would have that beat me was 77. it could have been an outright bluff, he could have had 88-tt, or any jack.
Maybe if I actually read the OP, I might know what the hell I'm talking about . .. . but why start now?

Sorry, got the flu still . . . .

If that's his hand range and given the pot odds, I'd beat him back into the pot. . . . .
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im raising it more pf, probably $18-20 pf.. you probably will still get called.
flop im probably not folding, unless my read is so strong that my balls hurt.
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