Against a SLAA with about 140 hands on him 23.29/13.01 goes to the SD 45% of the time. Comments?

Cryptologic
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.35/$0.7
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with
UTG raises, 2 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: (5SB, 2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero re-raises, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.5BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (7.5BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

Results:
Final pot: 9.5BB

First off, I'm assuming that whacked limit is from a currency conversion?? So... tommorow it may be a .30/.60 game? Or even the evil .40/.80 game?

err.... SH limit huh? Yeah, Looks ok to me....

Why are you calling from the SB against a 23/13 player from UTG??? His playing/raising standards are too good and you are out of position. Just fold

Post flop I would go for a check-raise to try to scare him out of the pot right there and to see where you're really at. but this is a tiny difference to me the mistake was pre-flop

Did he get you with AT?

Originally Posted by Steve-O

Why are you calling from the SB against a 23/13 player from UTG??? His playing/raising standards are too good and you are out of position. Just fold

Post flop I would go for a check-raise to try to scare him out of the pot right there and to see where you're really at. but this is a tiny difference to me the mistake was pre-flop

Did he get you with AT?

AHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Dude, 23% is nothing. 33% of the hands, he was dealt were in the blinds. Either adjust you're PT ratings or fuck'em. Numbers only have the defintions that we apply to them. Otherwise, they're just characters. Look at the numbers in context. Fold the QT, KT, KJ, AT, 88-22, QJ.

Villian seems like a guy who's read a lot of books, so I'm guessing he called Pok down with AK cause "Dude, Where's My Odds? Here they are.". Or people were giving his raise this much respect and he switched it up, or as book-boys do, he was beginning to slip back into his naturall self and got scared. In that case, I'll put Villian on anything from AT through JT.

I'm check-calling this river a lot more times than not. Because more times than I win, I'm up against Jacks, Queens, AT, KT, or getting slowplayed by Eights or Sevens. Now, I won't say that I don't bet this river when I've faced this case. I'm just saying "more times than not," I check/call and should do it more in this spot.

tight players don't call a river bet with ak, they don't even call the turn bet, this looks like over pairs played passively and by overpairs jj or qq cuase yous got to be retarded not to cap with aa or kk. He may have stuck around with 99 cause he thought he could have the best hand and had sum outs.
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Originally Posted by dopemope223

tight players don't call a river bet with ak, they don't even call the turn bet, this looks like over pairs played passively and by overpairs jj or qq cuase yous got to be retarded not to cap with aa or kk. He may have stuck around with 99 cause he thought he could have the best hand and had sum outs.

People aren't robots. That's what makes them human. Most poker books suck ass and would give you arguments to call the turn and river because of odds and implied this and that.

Fuck this, a tight player wouldn't do this and that with AK. That's all discussion where everyone sounds stupid to everyone else because everyone has different grouping systems.

You're not looking at the numbers, dopemope. He sees the flop 23% of the time. He's not playing a lot of hands at all. 33% of the hands are in the blinds and this table is passive. 23% is very low.

But he can't laydown a hand or win pot w/o showdown, he's going to showdown 45% of the time. He has a hand that is a BIG starting hand, but he hasn't been helped or his hand is marginally strong.

Originally Posted by Steve-O

Did he get you with AT?

Don't know how you called that one.

That was what he had, I thought he'd be more aggressive with TPTK. I actually had him on overs in he hand. I find I have this happen in a fair amount of hands. I'll hit TPGK and I'll do this exact same thing in hands like this.

Alex, thats VPIP not Flop Entry. Means he's voluntarily put money in 23% when he had the choice. Meaning, an unraised pot in the BB doesn't count towards this. This type of VPIP probably is in the 40%-45% FE at these tables. So excluding the BB, he's trying to see a flop at least once a round, and raising half of those.

Originally Posted by Marm

First off, I'm assuming that whacked limit is from a currency conversion?? So... tommorow it may be a .30/.60 game? Or even the evil .40/.80 game?

No standard US currency, on the Cryptos they have .35/.70 games in dollars. You can play in all different currencies but they have US currency tables.