How come everyone at these tables are morons until it doesn't suit your argument?

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why would someone have to be a moron to call with a Axs? or QJs?

I didn't say anyone was a moron, I said you are giving them such good pot odds that they will call with any hand they would bet.

if he has a set, why does he auto push the turn?

Not saying he's a moron. More on this later.

First, he could have anything and he making a bad bluff, calling with a bad hand instead of raising, now he's equating odds? You don't see the inconsistencies in how you're reading Villian.

The flop raise told Villian that our Hero is willing to play. So he calls and pushes. It's a typical move to look weak. Stop n' go. You'll have players in one post playing like crap when it suits your argument. In another, the same opponents are equating pot odds, implied odds, reverse implied odds, folding equity, and splitting the atom.

I just find it convenient that the general skill level of "people at these lo-limits/blinds" fluctuates in NO READS situations according to your argument, but your reasoning has nothing to do with the people themselves. From thread to thread, your general interpretation of lo-limit/blind players is inconsistent and without evidence that would lead one to discriminate the Villian you're speaking of at that time from an earlier generalization.

Hey, I think the call, as opposed to a re-raise in this spot, is very telling that he has a hand. You don't see it that way. Cool. You still haven't given any reasoning other than this vast array of hands this loose-passive bad player is applying math to.

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I am sorry, I dont see the inconsancies.

when you make a bet that gives your opponents odds, it is hard to read what they have.

a lot of people on here seem to think a lot people make blocking bets EP with flush draws, I think he actions are consistant with that.

as far as in depth analysis. I am lost, and six max NL isnt my game.

Did I call him a loose-passive bad player?

Based on very little info, you say he has one of two possible holdings which are longshots based on the board. I think there are a few more hands he could have.

With no reads, I'll give Villian the benefit of the doubt that there's something behind his moves until I have reason to believe otherwise. With our hand, a call is scarier than a flop all in.

I'm not saying that you're calling Villian bad in those words, but we're only losing this hand if he's playing this very badly IMO.

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he probably has us beaten. I don't dispute that, I just am not sure we are beaten on the flop.

what bothers me about this is that I don't feel that the preflop and flop bet sizes give us good information, but they build a big pot that takes away our options on the turn.

but I am hard pressed to come up with a better line - except calling the flop and seeing what happens on the turn. Keeping the pot smaller and giving us more options - but I don't know if that is any better.

this is usually what i do, but there were SD's and FD's on board i thought my hand was vunerable especaily against 4 people.

it is a better line.