Let me start by saying I understand these aren't super strong starting hands and I understand they're not full ring hands. But playable in 6 max in these scenarios??

Basically the majority of player on these tables are almost 50% VP$IP so they can and usualy are playing with anything.

While trying to learn 6 max I'm playing around with hands to play, positions to play them from, etc. Comments? Any good lines here? Or is it all crap?

Hand 1:
Villian stats: 48.28/12.64/1.26 aggy (bad hand to raise OTB with?)

Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.35/$0.7
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with
3 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (6BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB

Hand 2:
Bad hand to get involved in? Raise it if I'm gonna play?

Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.35/$0.7
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: (5SB, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.5BB, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (10.5BB, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds.

Results:
Final pot: 12.5BB

Hand 3:
Villian stats about 90 hands 59.78/2.17/0.67 aggy


Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.35/$0.7
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with
UTG calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.57SB, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (3.29BB, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG calls.

River: (7.29BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 7.29BB

I am not a 6 max expert, but hand 2 I think is a raise or fold prefop with one limper in front of you. You don't have enough players to make the flush value worth it and it is an dominatable hand - so raise to get control headsup or threeway or dump it. I would probably lean towards dumping it.

The JQ an A5s both seem like reasonable raises preflop.


Postflop:
I think hands 1 and 2 were played very well postflop.

Hand 3 I would have bet the flop with only three players in the hand after your preflop raise since you have position. I realize two flush and 78 isn't a great flop against blinds, but with only two others you have too much fold equity not to exploit it. If there were four to the flop, then the check is reasonable.
But since you didn't, I do REALLY like your raising for a free showdown on the turn - well done, sir.

Hand 1 - Perfect, really noything much to say about that

Hand 2 - Definite fold. This hand is cheese with 1 limper in front. If you raise, the BB and the limper are calling, if you limp you are getting pretty much the same action + you might lose position if the button comes along.

I might open raise this hand but I wouldn't raise a limper, I would play it if 2+ people limped in front of me. But 1 is asking for trouble. In this case you got everyone else to come along for 1 bet. That won't always happen, sometimes you'll get raised and others only you the limper and BB will see the flop. Just muck that cheese and wait for a monster like KJs

Hand 3 - Again, fold that mess. This is another hand I would open raise with, but not raise a limper. Similar to K8s, I would limp in if 2 or more people had already and I would open raise from the cutoff or button, otherwise fold.

Steve-O "stole my thunder" (can't believe I just used that sports talk radio cliche) with all three hands. Your QJ was so great because you open-raised, raising your chances at taking the pot on the flop or PF, gives you the power going into the hand, puts pressure on the other people to act and you have some cards to back you up.

In Hands 2 and 3, you have no folding equity PF or on the flop because someone's in front of you that WILL call your raise who can easily have your Ace or King outkicked, and you have bad-no connection value.

The open-raise is the most powerful PF weapon in 6max. when you're in the CO or button. Raising with someone already in the pot is for value/isolation. It does very little in terms of giving your presence in the hand any value. You're nothing to fear in 2 and 3. You're everything to fear in Hand 1, regardless of the fact that you hit a nice flop in the flirst hand.

Your FTR play in Hand 2 was good, but you were too quirky in Hand 3. Don't raise the turn in Hand 3. I'd say fold. You have third pair to a three-diamond board. You have no diamonds and there are 2 others who saw the flop.

AXs is MP is more of a full ring hand where there's little to no raising PF. You're OOP here, and not gonna get the payback for the times you raise at 6max. OOP with this hand.

Originally Posted by the alex

Your FTR play in Hand 2 was good, but you were too quirky in Hand 3. Don't raise the turn in Hand 3. I'd say fold. You have third pair to a three-diamond board. You have no diamonds and there are 2 others who saw the flop.

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Even after the flop was checked around? I like a raise for a free showdown here. That guy might be taking a stab with the A or K of diamonds, nothing, etc. He may lay down right there. I certainly like either raising or folding rather than calling, but I like the raise since he raised preflop - villian lays down alot of hands here and you have a hand with some showdown value, a few outs to improve, and an easy laydown if he three bets.
I love the turn raise. Talk me out of it.

edt: you guys are right about hand three and folding preflop - I'm not sure whether I didn't see the limper or just donked when I read it. I would open raise with it however.

Originally Posted by Phytopath

And where do they spread .35/.7 games?

cryptos have em anyway....dunno if thats where Poks is playing tho

This was on the cryptos, I was playing for a bit actually in my brothers account at lunch during work....learn with other peoples money

I'm not exactly sure what hands are considered "good" starting hands...remember guys full ring my VP$IP is about 17%, so my range wasn't all that broad there. So I may be going a little more nuts than normal.

So if I'm gonna attempt playing hands like this I'm better off in an unopened pot, and raise them?

Originally Posted by Phytopath

It seems from some of the hands you are posting is that you are playing far too many hands, just because your opponents do it doesn't mean that you should. What is your VPIP at 6 max? if you are playing K8 and A5 it has gotta be at least in the mid 30s? Tone it down, especially when the tables are VPIP 50% and higher, you'll need decent hands to win against 4 people.

Well with the hands from the cryptos (only a few 100) I'm a little over 25%, that's about the biggest sample size I have so far. The other site I'm playing all 6 max on dosen't support PT so I don't know what the number is.

After I finish that bonus I'm gonna find a site to play 6 max on and track it for a few 1000 hands.

Why does it seem like everyone suddenly has a hardon for 6 max?

Someone please briefly explain the benifits of 6 max tables over full tables.