Hand converters not working for me. If someone can help me repost the HH that would be great.

What do u do on river? (This is a UB 5.50 tourney)

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Hand #32277541-105 at Thu901pm-017 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
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Started at 01/Jun/06 22:35:38

BATMAN88 is at seat 0 with 8775.
Eclipse2005 is at seat 1 with 7105.
Derminator is at seat 2 with 2810.
LadyG is at seat 3 with 6505.
CBass30 is at seat 4 with 5210.
RP55 is at seat 5 with 1085.
Table Captain is at seat 6 with 11370.
RoadrunerFSG is at seat 7 with 12110.
hmr24 is at seat 8 with 3570.
TONY TUNA is at seat 9 with 6520.
The button is at seat 9.

BATMAN88 posts the small blind of 100.
Eclipse2005 posts the big blind of 200.

BATMAN88: -- --
Eclipse2005: Kc Tc
Derminator: -- --
LadyG: -- --
CBass30: -- --
RP55: -- --
Table Captain: -- --
RoadrunerFSG: -- --
hmr24: -- --
TONY TUNA: -- --

Pre-flop:

Derminator folds. LadyG folds. CBass30 folds.
RP55 folds. Table Captain folds. RoadrunerFSG
folds. hmr24 folds. TONY TUNA folds. BATMAN88
calls. Eclipse2005 raises to 900. BATMAN88 calls. <--- battle of the blinds. Hes SB, im BB. He limps to me, I raise.


Flop (board: 9c 5h 7s):


BATMAN88 checks. Eclipse2005 bets 900. BATMAN88
calls. <---- he checks to me, I cbet it with a 1/2ps bet. At this point I have no idea what he has, maybe chasing a draw. He may have A7, maybe A5. But im sure he would raise with those 2 pf. He may have a hand like KQ KJ QJ QT here - but most likely he would have raised pf with those hands as well. Maybe he has JT or J8. His limp-call, then check-call really threw me off.


Turn (board: 9c 5h 7s 3d):

BATMAN88 checks. Eclipse2005 checks.


River (board: 9c 5h 7s 3d Kd):

BATMAN88 bets 3600. Eclipse2005 ?????????? <---- I finally pair on the river. But villian bets out HARD. He bets the full ps here. Im guessing he has slow played aces here. Or slow played kings. But why would either hand bet out so hard into me? If he had AA or KK he would have bet lower then the ps, maybe value bet it. But HE DID call a 4.5x the BB pf raise. or maybe he flopped the straight and slowplayed that. Im gonna go broke here just to find out.





Thanks for all the feedback, heres what happened. I called btw.

Results in white below:

Showdown:

BATMAN88 shows 6h Ah.
BATMAN88 has 6h Ah 9c 7s Kd: ace high.
Eclipse2005 shows Kc Tc.
Eclipse2005 has Kc Tc 9c 7s Kd: a pair of kings.

Outcome: Eclipse2005 wins 10800 with a pair of kings.

Thought about it for the full 40 seconds, felt that things didnt add up in the way he played the hand. The river bet was way too much for someone holding 2pair or AA/KK imo. It was more of like he didnt want to get called at all on the river.
Made a call of my life. And like Alex said, villian's river bet is either a gift or a punishment.

I'm with you ... he has called a very big raise pre flop and he only just has you covered ... he must have something .. even if he is defending with a low PP because you have been playing with a tight .. high card image.

My guess is he has you beat with KK or trip something and the fact that you invested so much early with a big raise made him think he could get the rest of your stack by betting heavy (or overbetting getting you to think it was a bluff).

Originally Posted by Beavis68

Jester, do you always see monsters under the bed?

I probably fold too often in positions like this ... but it's ok when you get your AA, KK , QQ three hands later and double up to above average stack.

Pick your moments .. don't just call to a loss

Originally Posted by Beavis68

yeah, I love getting AA, KK, or QQ every three hands and doubling up, that is sweet.

He he ...

What I am trying to say is that every indication leads to a strong hand ... if that means a good bluff by the opponent then so be it.

This hand is gonna put Eclipse out of a tourney if he is wrong ..

Do you wanna put your tourney on the line.

What started out as a steal ended in a loss. Stay in the tourney and live to fight another day.

Is the HH wrong? You made trip kings on the river... the only hand that beats you is 68, and unless he real loose he's folding that out of the SB to your raise.

If you do have KK why not bet the turn?

Originally Posted by Beavis68

This I agree with, I dont think we are up against a monster, but we could still be behind.

they way he played it makes no sense.

I am not sure I would have stuck in 900 to win 400 here.

I may have checked, i may have raised less.

Woo hoo ... I feel all warm and cosy now .. beav agreed with me on something ...

Just a guess but I'll go w/K-5s or K-7s. Not K-9 as he probably would have ck-r on the flop. He had a bit of the flop but not top pair so wanted to chase to the turn for help, You're checking the turn gave him a free card on the river and bingo - hit his second pair!

OR he had something else entirely different! It's not un usual for Button or SB to slowplay big pocket pairs in order to get some kind of action - waiting for the river to spring the trap however is often quite risky. But your pf raise may have provided re-assurance that that flop was likely not very helpful to you unless you raised with another pp and hit a set.