What would you do in this hand?

**doja** · 06-01-2006

Played a local (live) MTT, $30 freeze-out, last night.

I want to find out if you guys think I made a mistake on this hand. I'd like some feed back on what you would do and why and then I'll post the result of the hand tomorrow.

60 total players, down to the final three tables with 6 or 7 on each table. 6 players at my table. Blinds are t600/t1200.

BB - Me (t6400)
UTG (t32500) - calling station
MP1 (t9000)
MP2 (t12300)
Button (t29400) - tight
SB (t14100)

Pre-flop: I'm in the BB for t1200 with

UTG calls, 2 folds, Button hesitates like he's gonna raise and then just calls, SB folds, I check BB

Flop: (t4200)

(3 players)
I check, station checks, button checks

Turn: (t4200)

(3 players)
I check, station checks, button bets t4000

What would you do here?

I'll post the result of the hand tomorrow. I'll tell you now that I'm asking because I think I made a mistake and I want to see if you would do the same thing or something different.

Thanks.

**Antneye** · 06-01-2006

My M is 4 before the hand. Once I pair the flop I am all in and hoping it holds up. I cant mess around. This could be the last time I have a Google Page Ranking in this tourney. Lets not forget we are SB next hand and my M will be even lower. No one is going to fear a push from me PF.

If they all fold great. I ve almost doubled up just by scooping whats in the pot right now.

**KINGJACK** · 06-01-2006

yep all in on the flop...

KJ

**doja** · 06-02-2006

I realized after I posted this that you need a good thread title to get anyone to read a hand anylasis thread in the strategy forum. Too many "what would you do threads"... oh well, next time.

I was really hoping someone would tell me what they would do after the bet. I realized about five minutes after going out that I should have gone all-in after the flop. I was "worried" that one of them had a K with a better kicker but this was the time to gamble and I should have. I haven't gone down in a tournament from a mistake in a couple of months...

The 4000 bet from the button looked like a play with middle pair so I went all-in and he showed

He probably would have folded to an all-in bet on the flop... good game... <sigh>

**KINGJACK** · 06-02-2006

Originally Posted by doja

I realized after I posted this that you need a good thread title to get anyone to read a hand anylasis thread in the strategy forum. Too many "what would you do threads"... oh well, next time.

I was really hoping someone would tell me what they would do after the bet. I realized about five minutes after going out that I should have gone all-in after the flop. I was "worried" that one of them had a K with a better kicker but this was the time to gamble and I should have. I haven't gone down in a tournament from a mistake in a couple of months...

The 4000 bet from the button looked like a play with middle pair so I went all-in and he showed

He probably would have folded to an all-in bet on the flop... good game... <sigh>

honestly, nothing you can do... If this player is anywhere near a good one he will cal you with the A and a gut shot...

However, next time pull the trigger on the flop... in this low M situation i mean... not anytime you hit top pair 4 kicker!!!

KJ

**Jason75** · 06-02-2006

You're the short stack (M of 3.6) at the table, in the BB, with an above average hand. If you reraise all in, your opponent will be getting less than 1.4:1 on you to call, and might fold a lot of holdings he limped in with. If he does call with those weaker holdings, you're likely to be 3:2 favorite or at worst a 3:2 dog.

Just push all your chips in the middle PF and don't think another thought about it.

Frankly, I'm all in with any 2 cards here. You're in a situation where you must get lucky to win, so might as well start now while you have that extra BB in your stack when you double up.

**Beavis68** · 06-02-2006

what was the purpose of checking the flop?

**Jason75** · 06-02-2006

Here's a little story:

In a live tourney, took a bad beat on the button against the SB.

Next hand, blinds were 25/50 and I had 275 left. I'm in the CO, it folds around to me, I have:

so of course I went all in. Folds around to the BB, who calls and flips over:

Everyone is saying "oh wow, you're dead". But I'm only a 2:1 dog, and the flop comes:

and I double up. Double up on the next hand when I pick up AA, and immediately go all in. Guy in the CO calls with JJ, thinking I've got crap. And just like that I'm right back in it.

Moral: Don't overthink when you're under an M of 5 and other players going out don't matter. Just push and pray.

**doja** · 06-02-2006

Originally Posted by Beavis68

what was the purpose of checking the flop?

Well, the first thing I'll say is: it was a mistake.

Having said that, the reason I checked is because of my achilles heel - once every couple of months I make an impulsive i.e. not thought out decision and it gets me in trouble.

I basically only thought about what to do there for about 2.5 seconds and thought, "Either one of these guys could have a K with a better kicker - maybe we can just check it out and I'll take it down in a showdown." Stupid, I know (now) but that what's what I thought and then immediately checked.

Had I taken 5 more seconds to think about I'm sure I would have gone all-in.

Last time this happened, same tournament, down too two tables, was back in Feb. but that decision was much worse so I guess I'm getting better at my bad decisions

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