Yesterday I made one of my few final table in the last few months and was in pretty good position for a big payout... I havent played a lot of MTTs lately...

6 players left

2nd in chips with 110 000
vilain have 195 000
Blinds are 3000/6000
other 4 player under 60K

Vilain played only one hand out of blinds in 3 orbits on the finaly table and he raised a limper (SS) all in with 99 from the BB.

2.5BB has been the my standard raise on the final table, and I've been pretty active stealing blinds and calling SS all ins.

aporx
1st pay 1400
2nd 800
3rd 400
4th 300
5th 200
6th 150

I'm on the CO with QQ
vilain is on the button

Fold
Fold
Fold
I raise it to 15K
Vilain raise it to 50K
Fold
Fold

Now What?
In fact, I was hoping for one of the blind to make that move... not the god dam CL!!!

KJ

Originally Posted by Beavis68

I know what I do, but I dont know if it is right.

Are you kidding me!?

Tell, your opinion is good to me... as long as yuou say why...

KJ

I push here as well. I think that unless the flop comes AAK or something craptastic like that, your money's going in any way, so just do it here. You win, you're CL and he's, well, not

I'm guessing he has a pocket pair or AK AQ as he hasn't been too active so far so probably has a decent hand.

I would still push and put the decision on him, as has been said before if he has AA or KK then your probably screwed but I think in the long run you get paid more often than you run into a monster.

So what did happen?

Given the situation you describe: YOu're very active stealing, villian has been fairly tight, and there's several stacks that have M's lower than 6 . . . I think this is an easy fold.

Here's my thinking:

You're going to have 60K left if you call, with the pot at 109K. Given this, I think our options are to stop & go, push, or fold.

Factors in favor of pushing or stop & go:

1. Your image & position: Villian could be putting you on a much weaker hand. I'll often steal in the CO with any A, K, QT+, JT, any pair, any suited connector. If the blinds are tight enough and can afford a fold, I'll raise with any 2 cards. If Villian is reraising with this in mind, you might be up against a hand as weak as any A, KT or a dominated pair.

The key is: Have you folded to reraises in this situation at the final table? The more often you've done it (fold a late position raise to a reraise from the blinds), the more likely I am to call.

2. If villian is reraising with any A, I think you could stop & go. If no ace flops, and you're up against AA or KK, you're still dead, but he's going to likely lay down any Ax or Kx. And you'll still get calls from some of the hands you're dominating, like 99-JJ. If an A flops, he could lay down KK, but you're now dead to Ax and likely won't get a call from dominated hands.

3. If you win, you're the dominating CL. 220K facing stacks of 85K and 4 less than 60K is a dominating position (at least 40% of chips in play if each of the shorties has 60K).

Factors in favor of folding:

1. He's the CL, so he can bust you. Given the fact that you have more than 2 times the next smallest stack, it almost seems silly to go up against the CL here.

2. The table is full of shorties. Even if you don't play this hand, you're going to outlive several of them most of the time. So going broke here is going to hurt your payday.

3. The CL has been playing tight, and has no reason to get into a confrontation with us here unless he's an idiot, knows we can lay this down, or has a real hand.

4. Even if we reraise all in, he's going to be getting 2.7:1 odds to call. We have no folding equity here, and he's going to call with anything.

5. You've been successful at stealing the blinds and picking on the short stacks, and villian has let you do it. This is the answer to my "where's my money coming from?" question. The answer is that your $ is coming from the short stacks, not a confrontation with the big stack.

6. If you fold you've got an M of 10 with a Q of at least 1 (assuming each short stack has 60K) and are still in 2nd position.


So as enticing as QQ is, I think this is an easy fold. Keep up blind stealing and build yourself back as the short stacks bust out and move you up the pay ladder. You're aiming for a top 3 finish, and I think you can make it if you just keep doing what you're doing.