Villian s a SLAA - 21.42/13/2.57 over 900 hands and down 5.50 BB/100 has been know to bluff and push hands as well. His Won$SD is 43.60.

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Limit: $0.50./$1
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP2 with
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5.5SB, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (3.75BB, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls.

River: (11.75BB, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 13.75BB
UTG+1 shows 8s Qs

What a homo.

Originally Posted by Pok 7's

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP2 with
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5.5SB, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (3.75BB, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls.

Looks like he caught his str8!

^^ Quite possible of course if he didn't hit it there the river really makes it obvious, I've seen him bluff at pots at times as well, but is this an easy laydown on the turn?

Originally Posted by Pok 7's

^^ Quite possible of course if he didn't hit it there the river really makes it obvious, I've seen him bluff at pots at times as well, but is this an easy laydown on the turn?

Hell NO! You have 9 outs to a FH!! And with 11.75 bets in the pot on the river it's a must call! He may have just got 2 pair. This doesn't strike me as abluff - he's got something and it looks like a str8 but you have to go to sd to see - worth the price just to find out what he's capping with!

I think Villian has KQ, but this one's up to you. I just looked at the results (which you shouldn't be posting yet, if you want feedback). But with 11.75 bets in the pot, and I'm not a big river odds guy, because there are no outs. All you have is read. How strong was it?

Obviously, your doubts said to call, but I would fold. The only question left is did you call out of stubborness, honest doubt, or math? You don't necessarily have to answer this here. You can look back on it and keep it to your self, but...

Answering this honestly helps nobody except you. Being dishonest helps nobody and REALLY hurts you.

i lay the jacks down, that board sreams straight esp when he bets into me on the river not to mention his reraise on the jack which is a diseaster card for you


kq could of beat you on the turn, id call it a check/fold from there on out

though i did look at the results but not after i guessd at what he held, got it right but not with his pocket hand,obviously a jackal

Good points Alex, the turn could've been a semi bluff with an OESD (although I doubt he would've capped)...the river (even if it was a semi bluff) gave him his card and honestly it was a crying call. Antneye brought up a pont the other day about a possibilty of folding too often on the river for big pots. (I'm kinda in a funk right now, with my current run of the last 10K hands or so. Which hopefully is just running bad )

I don;t mind bearing my soul here...I already did it in the general section with all my stats. My original read (after he capped the turn) was the same as yours. I was better than 95% confident on the river I was beat...but I guess it was a combination of stubborness, math, and curiousity.

I agree that once he re-raises on the turn you just have to call it down. Especially with that K on the river.

This is the exact reason why I hate limit hold'em, these sort of things p**s me off. In no limit you can over bet the pot on the flop and push him out in limit there is nothing you can do to stop him chasing.