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    Default AK again

    playing at the casino 100max i have about 110 in my stack and this hands comes up..
    dealt (i'm 2 off the button)
    I raise to 10$ and everyone folds to the SB who reraise another another 20 to make it 30 and 20 for me to call. I ponder an all in but i felt that if he did have qq or jj i didn't want to take a race, and there was the possibility of kk or aa, so i decided to call and see what the flop brought.
    flop looks like this

    he bet out another 30 pretty quickly
    so i look him over and it looks pretty much like a steal, so his holding looked more like aq ak suited at this point, theres about 95 dollars in the pot so i reraise allin for another 50 to him to call, and he does pretty quickly.
    flips over
    i just have to dogde a club, but the outcome of the hand doesn't really matter, use your imagination
    I would like sum critique on the play.. good raise by me, should i have folded when i was about 80% sure he had the same hand or worse. I know he only called cause he had a flush draw(and flush drawss at the casino are treated like gold for every player no matter how much it cost or what street)or should i have called..
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    Well, he knew he was either ahead, frerolling, or on a good draw. He really can't put you on KK or AA, since you were fairly passive PF, so he's counting all his outs, 15 here, so he's welcoming the chance to get all his money in as the favorite.

    I just mind blanked.... I'll come back to this.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    Well, he knew he was either ahead, frerolling, or on a good draw. He really can't put you on KK or AA, since you were fairly passive PF, so he's counting all his outs, 15 here, so he's welcoming the chance to get all his money in as the favorite.

    I just mind blanked.... I'll come back to this.....

    I count 14

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    I ponder an all in but i felt that if he did have qq or jj i didn't want to take a race, and there was the possibility of kk or aa, so i decided to call and see what the flop brought.
    Preflop:

    You have the 4th best hand AKs, you have to re-raise here imo unless the opponent is a rock who hasnt moved in a hour. AKs is a drawing hand, meaning if Im in a race situation against QQ/JJ Im gonna want to see all 5 cards. Plus there is the possibility he has AQ or AJ.

    Flop:
    Horrible re-raise all-in, you have missed this flop. He is representing a high PP, you got to think your behind at this point. Even if you thought he was on a steal, he could be doing it with a mid PP. 99s 88s. The only hand you might be ahead is AQ, but its very unlikly he has that.

    Let me ask you this... if you were worried he had AA KK, or QQ JJ preflop... then why didnt you give him credit for this postflop?
    Last edited by Auto; 05-31-2006 at 12:34 PM.
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    what does reraising preflop accomplish?

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    i count 13 outs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis68
    what does reraising preflop accomplish?
    Reraising all-in preflop is 10x better decision (unless you know the guy has been playing like a rock) then pushing all-in postflop after missing a flop.

    If you dont want to risk a race, then fine... but then you have to let AK go when you miss completely.
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    8 clubs + 3 kings + 3 aces = 14 outs

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    9 clubs + 2 Aces + 2 Kings=13 outs

    i put 12 instead sry.

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    what limit is this? .5/1 or 1/2?

    also i dont really like the flat call pf. His RR looks a lot likes he trying to defend the blinds from a possible blind steal attempt from you.
    If u flat call you only pair 1/3 of the time. And because of the fact that he RRed pf, he is going to be for sure continuation betting the flop. This means that 2/3 of the time u will have to fold the flop.

    Much better to either fold or re-raise all in preflop. If this was an online game I would sway more on the fold because I dont like getting into coin flip situations preflop - much better to take that 10 dollar hit and move onto the next hand imo. Since this is a live game however, RR all in might be a good play because you may get called by all sorts of garbage hands. I think its more read dependant here however. Has villian been defending blinds alot with RR steals? Has villian been RRing with anything less of QQ/KK/AA?

    also on the flop, you shouldnt be raising or calling if you believe your at best looking for a split pot. But you probably know this already.
    Last edited by Eclipse86; 05-31-2006 at 03:34 PM.

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