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    Default Isolate the draw?

    Prima Poker skin
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.10/$0.20
    6 players
    Converter

    No reads.

    Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with
    UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

    AHAHAH! nothing you punks can say about my pf play! woooooooooooooot.

    Flop: ($1, 5 players)
    SB bets $0.6, Hero raises to $1.2, 3 folds, SB calls.

    This bet screams flush draw to me. I raise to represent top pair and isolate the draw. I do this b/c I know ppl drawing w/out odds is really where the money comes from at these limits. Only min-raised b/c I do have a weak holding and I'm not trying to get too pot committed.

    I know this is a dangerous raise, but if I flat call odds will entice more calls and I'm trying to win this pot. And I cant lay down middle pair .

    Seriously tho, Is raising here completely reckless, or is a good way to show strength and isolate a player who probably doesnt have a made hand. What if I raise more?

    Turn: ($3.4, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $2.8, SB calls.

    no odds for you.

    River: ($9, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks.

    no hand I'm beating is calling a bet here..

    Results:
    Final pot: $9

    I just realized I set myself up for a squeeze play from an obserant player... good thing there arnt to many at .1/.2
    Last edited by Fishodeath; 05-29-2006 at 11:38 AM.
    BB is t100
    Preflop: Hero is UTG with :3d :5d,
    Hero raises to t500

    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    YOU ARE WEAK AND LOOSE. JUST LIKE AN OLD HOOKER! BAD HOOKER! BAD!

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    3/5 of the pot bet from a EP player screams draw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis68
    3/5 of the pot bet from a EP player screams draw?
    In that big of a field, with an obvious flush draw I'm pretty sure TP or better bets this alot harder.
    BB is t100
    Preflop: Hero is UTG with :3d :5d,
    Hero raises to t500

    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    YOU ARE WEAK AND LOOSE. JUST LIKE AN OLD HOOKER! BAD HOOKER! BAD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis68
    3/5 of the pot bet from a EP player screams draw?

    I scream when I see nightmares!

    (Just kidding - I'm more of the whimmer silently within type )

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    "3/5 of the pot bet from a EP player screams draw?"

    I make that bet alot in tournies, if i can i wanna take it down now if not and i hit i want someone like you to say what you just said

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    Quote Originally Posted by surftheiop
    "3/5 of the pot bet from a EP player screams draw?"

    I make that bet alot in tournies, if i can i wanna take it down now if not and i hit i want someone like you to say what you just said
    "if not and I hit" so you do make this bet with draws or made hands?
    BB is t100
    Preflop: Hero is UTG with :3d :5d,
    Hero raises to t500

    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    YOU ARE WEAK AND LOOSE. JUST LIKE AN OLD HOOKER! BAD HOOKER! BAD!

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    Fishodeath;
    Having read and replied to several of your HH I have made a note on you in my journal. It reads:

    1. Loose - very loose to almost goose-loose
    2. Aggressive preflop and post flop = AA

    LAA = jackal/maniac - bust when ever possible!


    Do you ever play on Pokerstars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aces-o-8s
    Fishodeath;
    Having read and replied to several of your HH I have made a note on you in my journal. It reads:

    1. Loose - very loose to almost goose-loose
    2. Aggressive preflop and post flop = AA

    LAA = jackal/maniac - bust when ever possible!


    Do you ever play on Pokerstars?
    No I play on prima right now, user name is fishodeath. Feel free to look me up. Fact is I dont play this way every hand... realize I am a winning player over 11K hands (14bb/100). These type of hands are the ones that interest me...

    Frankly, this type of disrespect surprizes me from PFO. You didnt even bother to give input on how you would've played the hand differently. I now have a note in my book on Aces-o-8s, it reads : "Jackass, bust whenever possible"
    BB is t100
    Preflop: Hero is UTG with :3d :5d,
    Hero raises to t500

    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    YOU ARE WEAK AND LOOSE. JUST LIKE AN OLD HOOKER! BAD HOOKER! BAD!

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    only because i over analyze a hand but the sb betting out says to me ace 10 king 10, i like the reraise, signifies aggressiveness, but your controlling the action. kudos to you

    but then he checks the turn flat calls ur turn bet and both check the river.

    you bet on the river i believe you take this pot down with no showdown

    id say you probably won this hand..95% sure of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishodeath
    Frankly, this type of disrespect surprizes me from PFO. You didnt even bother to give input on how you would've played the hand differently. I now have a note in my book on Aces-o-8s, it reads : "Jackass, bust whenever possible"
    The disrespect you feel is self-inficted. I and many others have on serveral occations given you input to you overly loose plays and you keep submitting the same type of plays - you may enjoy the reading excercise it provides but as for learning anything, you still seem challenged on that front.

    As for this hand, you should have checked the flop and hoped for a cheap look at the turn or fold to a raise. These hands lose way more than they win and you're flushing your bets down the toilet. cheers - see you at the bust fest!
    Last edited by Aces-o-8s; 05-29-2006 at 01:30 PM.

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