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    Default AKs - Final Table $20 SNG

    First hand at final table.....this guy had just joined our table so no reads of any kind on him

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    No Limit Holdem Tournament
    Blinds: t600/t1200
    (Ante: t75)
    9 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: t27184
    Hero: t24190
    MP1: t30445
    MP2: t12509
    MP3: t24850
    CO: t80210
    Button: t21605
    SB: t36417
    BB: t12590

    Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with
    UTG folds, Hero raises to t3600, MP1 raises all-in t30370, 6 folds, Hero...........


    im figuring that i know what the answer should be but confirmation is always nice to get
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    Easy fold. If you have him beat, he'll do it again when you have a better shot. in full ring and about 5 til the money, you've got a ways to go and chips to play with. Not many, but you're in good shape and people are gonna start dropping.

    Winning this hand puts you in a good spot, but in no way strong enough to justify a 50% chance at bust.

    This is a good reason why I small ball. Betting 3k gives the same message as 3,600. That T600 discrepancy adds up.
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    This kind of decisions is hard.

    I had to make a terrible one, laying down JJ against two ppl all-in.

    One was 99 other was AA, so it was correct (?)

    But flop later came JJx


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    Quote Originally Posted by the alex
    in full ring and about 5 til the money,
    i really shoulda said that this was in the 180 man SNG......already ITM.....ranges from $60 for 9th to $288 for 4th, 3rd $428, 2nd $720, 1st $1000

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    easy call.

    your opening raise was too small with blinds and antes already in the pot.

    You M is 10.

    You really want to let people know you are serious, and you shouldn't have any thoughts of folding. I would open with somewhere between 5k and all in.

    I can't find my copy of HOH2 right now, but this seems like an inflection point hand, you are either just inside a zone or getting ready to drop one and folding this hand will definitely drop you one.

    Hell, if if this was a single table I would be callilng - and raising more pre-flop.
    Last edited by Beavis68; 05-27-2006 at 05:42 PM.

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    I'd call, but the fact that this is the tail end of a 180 man tourney, it stresses that a 3k bet is as effective and sends the same message as 3600. More hands, more raises, more savings.

    You could start this in the mid-stages or 6 handed in a single table see when you feel comfortable.
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    you getting 1.5 to 1 on your money
    A Very tight range on the reraise would be
    Aks 43%
    TT+ AK 56%
    =
    1.3 to 1
    This is tough spot if you think there is ANY chance he does this with Aq gotta call instantly

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    Quote Originally Posted by the alex
    I'd call, but the fact that this is the tail end of a 180 man tourney, it stresses that a 3k bet is as in-effective and sends the same message as 3600.
    FYP.

    Unless you have a big stack, don't size raises with powerful hands so you can drop them. Size them to put pressure on your opponents and make your calls easy.

    In these stages, making your raises xblinds is worthless. It should be based on the pot size your stack, and your opponents stacks.
    Last edited by Beavis68; 05-27-2006 at 05:45 PM.

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    anyone else consider just shoving this instead of raising?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the alex
    I'd call, but the fact that this is the tail end of a 180 man tourney, it stresses that a 3k bet is as effective and sends the same message as 3600.
    i dont like making little raises at this stage cos all it takes is one caller and then everyone else can come along for the ride too....

    as for 3k being as effective as 3.6k, this is prob true......anyone gonna call one will call the other.

    i also wouldnt push this Beav.....any push after me is giving me the right odds to call so i like to give someone a chance to try to steal it from me....i also like a LITTLE action with AKs....in saying that, it is at this stage that i tighten up far too much and make some poor decisions....bigger pf raises is something i need to work on at the business end, amongst other things

    fwiw, i reckoned that a push meant a med PP or AK/AQ....im a little worse than even money against majority of hands he pushes, im getting better than even money so i called......77 held up and my adventure was over

    i did consider Alex's first point that i could find a better spot but due to the prize structure, i wanted to go now or have a real chance at winning/top 3
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