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    Default NL Hold Em Cash Game strategy

    Playing $100 - $200 NL cash online, 10 handed.

    You are on the button with AJ/KJ/KQ

    You have had 2 limps from MP - LP.

    Do you raise/call/fold each of these hands and why?

    If reads on players/table image/stack sizes affect your decision state how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WotaWaster
    Playing $100 - $200 NL cash online, 10 handed.
    You are on the button with AJ/KJ/KQ
    You have had 2 limps from MP - LP.
    Do you raise/call/fold each of these hands and why?
    Raise all three b/c:
    1. I have position
    2. unless limpers are being tricky w/raising type hands (mistake) they are coming in with weak hands such as mid (un)/suited connectors or small pairs, or A-little. Raising puts a price on playing weaker/trashier hands and
    3. builds the pot for the probable best hand if I hit a flop
    4. Raising allows me to bully or bluff a missed flop - more believable
    5. I like being mean sometimes

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    AJ (suited or no) - Raise 3xbb, nothing fancy here just raising for value, noone has shown real strength so AJ stands to be the best hand at the table right now. (20/80) limp/raise

    KJo - limp I dont feel this hand is strong enough to raise at a 10 handed table unless I'm first into the pot in LP. One of the limpers could easily have KQ and I'm raising into a dominated situation. Mabye (90/10) limp raise
    KJs - more than likely limp, but a raise is more reasonable. (70/30) limp/raise

    KQo - good hand to raise with, pretty easily to get away from an ace-high flop if someone bets but also easy to represent the ace if its checked to you. (40/60) limp/raise
    KQs - Same as above, but added playablity of suitedness. (30/70) limp/raise

    Reads - only thing changing my strategy is if a player is known to like to limp/raise fairly often, but even then I'm prolly only adjusting 10% towards limping.
    Table image - if I've been making alot of postion raises (with or w/o hands dont matter) I'll probably tend to limp more with KJ and KQo beacuse its goin to be harder to stand up to someone playing back at you. If I've been playing tight and showing down strong hands, I'm more likely to raise.
    Stacksize - no real change unless my raise would put small stack who limped close enough to all-in that he decides he wants to raise with his pocket pair which isnt even too bad with the dead money in the pot.
    BB is t100
    Preflop: Hero is UTG with :3d :5d,
    Hero raises to t500

    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    YOU ARE WEAK AND LOOSE. JUST LIKE AN OLD HOOKER! BAD HOOKER! BAD!

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    Fisho

    If you limp with KJ because you fear raising into KQ how are you playing a flop when a K hits? Fold if bet into?

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    if i limp with kj, and a k hits

    i will bet , if called usually by 1 or 2 ppl i will bet strongly again, unless reraised 3x or more. if 1 folds and the river dosnt help me and im hu i will check at this point to prevent futher damage. he limps with kq more power to him otherwise i take the pot down agains k 10 or k 9 suited

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    i raise with only the AJ here..
    because since the people before you only limped, u can be sure no one has AQ/AK.. so if u flop TP, u can be sure its TPTK.
    i wouldnt raise it with the KJ or KQ, because if u get called pf.. ur going to the flop unsure of wether the guy who just limp-called could have AJ AXs KQ any PP.. so u wont really be that sure whether ur kicker is good or not if u flop TP with the KJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WotaWaster
    Fisho

    If you limp with KJ because you fear raising into KQ how are you playing a flop when a K hits? Fold if bet into?
    This is where having postion is very helpful. If its checked threw and the board is at all scary, you can be very sure someone isn't slowplaying KQ, unless they're a donk (in which case you should know by now).

    Of course getting bet into is the problem - I will typically raise 3x their bet (unless its abnormaly large) but fold to a 3-bet. If they flat call the raise, then the turn gets tricky...

    *note* I've played mabye 2k hands at tables with 8-10 ppl. I'm just "casting my vote" if you will...
    BB is t100
    Preflop: Hero is UTG with :3d :5d,
    Hero raises to t500

    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    YOU ARE WEAK AND LOOSE. JUST LIKE AN OLD HOOKER! BAD HOOKER! BAD!

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    I raise KQ in this situation with the logic that:

    As Eclipse said noone should have AK/AQ and therefore a K or Q should give me TPTK.

    Noone should have a strong ace and so I can bet to represent ace anyway if its checked to me. Just have to wary if someone in the blinds calls.

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