bet the turn.

call on the river. call and pay the boat, but you said you were playing agressive and with your flop bet hes prolly not putting you on a flush. even though you havnt invested much i think you catch a bluff or trip kings enough here to call.

also i think he plays a set or 2 pair very agressively on this board. at least i would, especaily with an agressive player like yourself.

since it says the final pot was 230 i assume you pushed? what did he have?
prolly a boat cause you posted haha.

but dude i make the same damn call even though the river sucks. you should just bet the turn harder imo.
tough luck if hes got a boat.

Originally Posted by Fishodeath

Why do I bet the turn? His call on the flop doesnt mean he has much, he's prolly just tired of getting pushed around. I think I agree I should have bet the turn, but I want to hear your reasons.

in this spot, i like to play this kind of hand fairly strongly. i want to build a pot for the river so i can push all my chips. i have found that if i check down and either check raise or bet the pot, the pot is too small and the villian can get away from the hand cheaply. however if i bet 1/2 the pot on the flop and turn, i does a few things. it does not look like you flopped the nuts, and most importantly the pot is now big enough so that the villian is thinking its worth stealing. or now the pot is big enough to the point where the villian will have invested enough and will say he is pot committed.
also i think by calling 1/2 pot bet on the flop he is pretty likley to call on the turn when you bet. what hands fold? maybe he wises up with a flush draw and mucks it, but any other hand still pays you.
i just think you are leaving chips on the table by checking, you are risking keeping the pot small for trying to get the villian to bet on the river, IMO not worth it even though i havnt done a very good job of explaining why.

also, imo, the line you took really makes it look like you are slowplaying something huge as well. as soon as i see bet, check, bet, or check, check, bet, (in a raised pot) i am usually pretty cautious.

i just like the bet. haha

I like the turn check as well, especially considering your image as a LAG.

From his point of view you bet out on a scary suited flop, got called and then slowed down on the turn when a harmless card falls (to someone holding the nut flush anyway). To me this play induced the large raise on the river as he senses weakness.

I think that he thinks you don't have the flush, but he may put you on a straight (AQ) as that fits more with your line. In which case the raise is definitley a boat.

It's a close one, but I'd call.

Originally Posted by gder03

cheking the turn is a very smart play. you played hand perfectly post flop. i might call depending in the players tendancies/ my observations. if 55% of time the play works, then you should call.

even if the check induces a river bet, i dont think its going to be big enough, and with the 3flush board a good player might be able to get off the hand with a small enough pot.

in the long run i dont like the check.