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    River Rat flowingriver's Avatar
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    Default Wa this bad play by me/him/both?

    Sorry dont have the hand history. NL100

    Me - $42
    Him - $80

    He is UTG and limps. 2 more limpers. Im BB with ad make it $5 to go.

    He calls after a little hesitation everyone else folds. Pot- $14.5

    Flop -

    I bet 10. He calls.

    Turn - I push with what is a pot sized bet. He calls fairly quickly.

    River -

    He had

    I kinda thought he had just paired the board so I pushed the turn on a semi bluff.

    Thoughts?
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    He seems to have had a read on you...
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    PF- I dont think raising so much is a good idea....

    In cases where I have a big suited ace in the BB, I like to raise 2-3x the bb when there are multiple limpers, your going to get callers with any reasonable raise so I like to make it raise that may thin the field a bit, but more to pump up the pot b/c alot of flops look good to you where you can get action from weakers hands.
    when playing hands this way you need to hit a strong flop or just check fold, the thing is your likely up against at least one pocket pair so you'll need to hit a ace or queen on the flop to truely be ahead (altho a K is easy enough to represent).

    the way you played the hand you generated a large pot (of which almost half you put in) out of position with a drawing hand sucks when you miss the flop in this case, very hard to play. If you had raised a lil less, you have a bigger pot with less of your own money invested and you stand to lose very little if you miss but make alot when you hit.

    flop -

    Personally, I'm checking this flop - I dont mind a free card to make top pair or a decent draw and if he bets you can raise (represents an overpair) to try and drive him out of the pot.

    turn-

    I actually like this move alot- your pushing 27 bux into a 32 buck pot (2:1ish if he calls). Your actualy equity is -

    Board: 4h 9s 8d Jh
    Dead:

    equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
    Hand 1: 34.0911 % 34.12% 00.00% { AhKh }
    Hand 2: 65.9089 % 65.96% 00.00% { 9d6d }

    which seems about fair even considering the range of hands that call your flop bet.

    so your getting about the right odds on your money straight up (assuming no fold equity). But in reality you've prolly got at least 10-15% worth of fold equity in this situation, so this is a easily +EV push.
    BB is t100
    Preflop: Hero is UTG with :3d :5d,
    Hero raises to t500

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    Him preflop then you post flop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aces-o-8s
    Him preflop then you post flop
    Fair enough, I dont consider myself a very strong pf player anyway... (I'm known to raise utg with 35 )
    BB is t100
    Preflop: Hero is UTG with :3d :5d,
    Hero raises to t500

    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    YOU ARE WEAK AND LOOSE. JUST LIKE AN OLD HOOKER! BAD HOOKER! BAD!

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    River Rat flowingriver's Avatar
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    Yeah I wasnt to happy about this apart from the push on the turn.

    I was looking to take it down pf, then continuation bet on the flop which I think represents the big pair fairly well.

    And then the push on the turn was breaking even before fold equity.

    Worst thing was this was thew last hand I was going to play.
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