Well I am not much of a NL player, but have been trying some lately.

Here is a hand from NL100 I was playing on Pokershare last night, Hand converters don't work so I'm freehanding it . This was 6 handed.

I have about 95$ on the CO, button just joined the table he has about 105$ and the BB has about 125$.

Anyway I have

It is folded to me, I make it 4$ to go, button calls, SB folds and BB calls.

Flop (12.50$ pot)


The BB checks, now it's to me??? I usually play these hands quickly, since it seems alot weaker than checking it. I bet out 10$, the button quickly calls, the BB folds.

Turn (32.50$ pot)


Now it is to me, again I think about checking but think better of it and bet out 32.50$, button quickly calls again.

River (97.50$ pot)


Now me again, I thought about checking in order to induce a bluff is there merit in that? I decided to make a value bet we both have about 50$ left, what is the best amount to bet out here? I decide to bet out 25$, the button quickly calls.

The reason I posted this is I am mostly wondering the pros and cons of playing a hand like this fast.

Originally Posted by Phytopath

The reason I posted this is I am mostly wondering the pros and cons of playing a hand like this fast.

the pros of playing a hand like this fast is that nobody in their right mind is going to put you on the nut flopped flush. somebody is going to think you are protecting your weak/weaker hand against a draw. it will make them think their flush draw is good. they might think you are on a complete bluff.

a check raise is going to give this hand right away. since the button is unknown, you have 2 options:

A. bet pot on every street. he called on the flop and turn, he will probably reluctantly call the river, MAYBE raise you. this is imo more profitable than a check on the river. most people wont bluff, and the people that are going to value bet their set or 2 pair are the same ones calling your potsized bet on the river. however, the set or 2 pair probably checks once you check. so, bet pot if you have been doing so.

B. if you check the flop and he bets, check call and then check the turn. you are setting him up for a trap but a checkraise on the flop is too soon. the pot will be too small and he might get away from it. check call the flop, and check the turn.
hopefully he will bet the pot on the turn. once he does, you are some more options. you can just call again and then check the river, but this is VERY read dependant. i wouldnt risk showing down the nuts for cheap unless you were against an agressive player. since you dont know, its probably best to check raise the turn, or check call the turn and bet out the river.

im more inclined to check raise the turn because if he has the Q of clubs (a very likley holding) hes more likley to give you action on the turn than on the river when he misses his draw.

either plays are fine though, and i think you played it fine, except for you should have probably bet the pot or pushed or whatever on the river. but thats fine, you did a very good job an concealing the strength of your hand and won a nice pot. play around with what i said and see what you like the best. again, trying to induce a bluff on the river is very read dependant. at least make sure the villian plays the flop and turn VERY strongly, or you know hes agressive and will bet the river so you can check raise and he will call pot commited.

gl.

Originally Posted by Yvraine

I would have guessed QX of clubs, and he was hoping his second nuts were good, but fearing they weren't. Hence just calling you all the way to the end.

anybody with that hand is going to raise somewhere, most likley the turn. he might have flopped a LOW flush. not anything like the 2nd nuts though

Played well, except I prefer either pushing all in or checking river.

If he has a hand he likes hes going to call $50 into a $97.50 pot anyway.

If he had the Q high flush draw he will not call anything but may bluff at pot if you check.

In this situation I really cant see someone calling bets that size with just the Q of clubs so I would push all in and hope for call from trips/2 pair.

Thanks for the replies, I generally play big hands like this like this when I am the preflop aggressor, and leading out with str8s, flushes and sets seem to be alot more profitable than playing them slowly.

I was actually a little suprised he called my pot sized bet on the flop, because of that I guess I could have gotten away with betting more on the river. After this call and based on his PF call I put him on K with either the Qc or Jc. I really just wanted to get paid off by his top pair type of hands here, so I thought 25$ would be alot easier to call than 50 would be.