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    Poker Professional Pok 7's's Avatar
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    Default Spam hand 5

    I find I run into this a lot and have no idea what to do going into the turn play usually when I bet I lose and when I bet I lose. Same guy from hand 4.

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    Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with
    UTG folds, Hero raises, MP1 calls, 5 folds, BB calls.

    Flop: (6.5SB, 3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, BB calls.

    Turn: (4.25BB, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks.

    River: (4.25BB, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

    Results:
    Final pot: 6.25BB

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    Mer hes not going anywhere. Hes goign to call you with anything close to a hand. So you have no fold equity on the end.

    Check this for value, betting is just costing you more.

    You can't bluff CS's, so you have to bet for value, bet for value, bet for value, and don't bluff. Just check and take the pot if you can, else save the bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    Mer hes not going anywhere. Hes goign to call you with anything close to a hand. So you have no fold equity on the end.

    Check this for value, betting is just costing you more.

    You can't bluff CS's, so you have to bet for value, bet for value, bet for value, and don't bluff. Just check and take the pot if you can, else save the bet.
    Well I sorta agree, but I think I bet the turn and check the river.
    You can CLEARLY fold to a raise on the turn, so betting is not so bad. Any fold equity you have is on the turn so if you want to pick one street to bet - the turn is clearly it.
    It also avoids having to make a guess that he is bluffing with a worse A on the river after you checked the turn and he bets out.
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    I don't like the river bet either. I don't think you have any assurance that your hand is good, so it's not a value bet. I also don't see what he could have that has you beat which he would fold here (maybe a pair of 3's, but how likely is that?). To me this is a classic "you'll only get called if you're beat" senario.
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    Yeah I was a little perplexed on this one lately I've been betting the turn and checking the river usually when I'm either first or last to act in a scenario like this (AK unimproved) and check/folding the river. I was thinking maybe my A high might be good on the river (don't ask why) so I decided to bet.

    Should've either checked it down or if I was gonna fire do it on the turn.
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