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12-23-2004, 02:10 PM
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I don't think that Party is intentionally rigged, perhaps an error in coding?
BTW, just lost another QQ to KK.
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12-23-2004, 02:10 PM
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yeah 400 hands is a very small sample size. Although it might feel like a lot if you're 1 tabling, it really isn't.
I think 2k hands is more of a rut, but even then that's not so much.
As long as your roll is large you shouldn't worry about anything. I suggest playing more tables. being down 4BB ain't so bad...
Keep on truckin.
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12-23-2004, 02:23 PM
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I don't think that Party is intentionally rigged, perhaps an error in coding?
BTW, just lost another QQ to KK.
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An error in coding would to have a 16 of circles in ther deck. MAking sure there only occurs 52 cards in play, that multiple strong draws hit, and somebody catches a set is intentional, if it occurs every hand. Errors in coding like that would create some anomalies that would visibly present themselves in play (ie 2 5 of spades on the flop)
People say its rigged (or written wrong) becuase they don''t understand the math involved with a deck of 52 cards, with 10 pairs being dealt and 5 community cards. THeoretically you can have 6 straights, 2 straight flushes, 4 fullboats, and quads, ALL IN THE SAME HAND. Play that one online and the screaming about rigged will never cease. Play that one in a BM room, and the entire building is out playing the lottery.
BTW, the chances of having an AA or KK out there when you got QQ UTG is 8%, or 1 in 12 hands, not that infrequent.
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12-23-2004, 02:26 PM
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Each site hires outside firms to check their software to make sure it's random... check the PP site I'm sure you'll find that they have recently done this.
The sites aren't rigged, poker is rigged.
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12-23-2004, 02:31 PM
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Each site hires outside firms to check their software to make sure it's random... check the PP site I'm sure you'll find that they have recently done this.
The sites aren't rigged, poker is rigged.
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I know BMM is refusing to certify a bunch of the sites anymore, mainly due to the patriot act. BUt the ones that did have that cert, I believe they are still legit.
But I agree with that last statement the most.
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12-23-2004, 02:49 PM
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Marm,
6 thingy? I'm not familiar with Absolute Poker.
bboy,
Read this: http://cardplayer.com/poker_magazine...es/?a_id=14213
It's an article that Lee Jones wrote in Card Player magazine about the allegations of online poker being rigged. The title says it all- nothing's a lock. It's still gambling. The right move can go so wrong as often as Manny Ramirez gets a base hit and he gets a lot of base hits. Think of it like baseball. The hitters in baseball that seem like "locks" hit home runs once every 10 at-bats, get base hits 3 out of every 10 at-bats. In poker, people call those bad beats.
Vladmir Guerrero, the '04 MVP hit 39 HRs in 600+ AB's with let's guesstimate 50 walks. 39/650=0.06. He knocked one out of the yard in only 6% of his plate appearances. The odds of Vlad hitting a HR are worse than someone catching a set with their deuces in the hole on the turn or river, but it still happens. And just like that set catching on the river, it stands out like a Vladmir Guerrero long ball highlight on SportsCenter.
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12-23-2004, 03:23 PM
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12-23-2004, 03:54 PM
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I didn't really think PP was rigged against me. I just found it odd that I had read about this pocket pair thing, and sure enough, it's what I find out.
On a side note, I was on a bad streak at -27BB at one point, until I found the right table. This table was lucky to find, $9 average pot, and 4 callers/chasers who will literally call with anything. I had the lowest VP$IP at the whole table. I am currently up 5BB after 700 hands, so I figure it was just swingy.
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12-23-2004, 08:20 PM
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ANytime you got a 6 in the hole, any six, any kikcer, on AP, you pushed IN, and won. Dunno, some of the other guys found it, and I won like 6 times in a row. Not proof, just weird.
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12-24-2004, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bboy
I didn't really think PP was rigged against me. I just found it odd that I had read about this pocket pair thing, and sure enough, it's what I find out.
On a side note, I was on a bad streak at -27BB at one point, until I found the right table. This table was lucky to find, $9 average pot, and 4 callers/chasers who will literally call with anything. I had the lowest VP$IP at the whole table. I am currently up 5BB after 700 hands, so I figure it was just swingy.
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I think you should read the article that Lee Jones wrote for Card Player if you didn't the thought that weird things are happening because of an outside source are damaging to your roll. It is a way that you can disguise bad play from yourself. Not an insult, just an observation that I've made on myself.
"So-and-so made me lose because they made a bad call and got lucky."
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"This never happens in real life."
Both statements are bullshit for two reasons. First: "made me lose because they made a bad call" is good. You want people to make bad calls and second: "never" because it's gambling. If there's a 2% chance, they're not drawing dead.
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