Good call PF, being in for a 1/2 blind and that many callers, A9s is good enough to call. And you made the right fold.

You play Axs for flushes and trips to the kicker. Not Mid pair with a lot of draws and callers.


Also... were they Calling stations or Just loose Preflop. There is a big difference. A calling station may or may not see a lot of flops, but they are generaly considered semi-loose, but once they are in a hand, you can't get them out short of dynamite. They are usually very passive, rarely betting, and you can't get them to fold until at least the river.

I think I'm either raising all in here PF or folding PF.

Depending on how much I thought these guys were calling stations . . . . seems like MP1 would likely lay down to a reraise (I'm assuming he's just raising most pots) . . . and I don't mind a call from one of the calling stations.

You don't want to play out of position against both an aggressive player (who will be firing on every street) and a calling station (who will be calling down hoping to hit). . . . . you really want one or the other heads up.

In this type of situation, "playing poker" is extremely limited and you have to have the cards to beat the calling stations (good luck reading a calling station). Either put them to the ultimate test and/or go heads up with one of them by going all in PF, or just save your chips and make them pay when you pick up a bigger hand that likely dominates the crap they come in with.

You have enough chips to play after your flop fold, and I'm not beating my tournament stack on A9s at this point.

I like the call PF, but I have an odd passion for playing A9, sooted or not. But I would need to hit it stronger than second pair to stay with it. If I hit top pair, I would bet out on it, but need a good read to call a raise behind me. If I hit the flush draw, I would try to see a card or two cheaply.

I like your play on this hand. This is not the time to dump a lot of chips on your A9s.

Originally Posted by Jason75

I think I'm either raising all in here PF or folding PF.

Depending on how much I thought these guys were calling stations . . . . seems like MP1 would likely lay down to a reraise (I'm assuming he's just raising most pots) . . . and I don't mind a call from one of the calling stations.

You don't want to play out of position against both an aggressive player (who will be firing on every street) and a calling station (who will be calling down hoping to hit). . . . . you really want one or the other heads up.

In this type of situation, "playing poker" is extremely limited and you have to have the cards to beat the calling stations (good luck reading a calling station). Either put them to the ultimate test and/or go heads up with one of them by going all in PF, or just save your chips and make them pay when you pick up a bigger hand that likely dominates the crap they come in with.

Errrr..... what?

Pushing Preflop is not an option. We have A9s. There are already 3 in the pot, 1 raised and 2 cold called a raise. At least one, maybe two of those tards are coming along.

We are getting better than 4-1 assumed odds (thats assumed as in we assume the CS BB will alimp along too). That's plently good to limp here with a mid suited ace.

PF- I like the call.

Flop- I wouldn't have played this any differently. But I will add that calling is not a consideration on the flop given (a) your position; (b) the amount of people to follow your check; AND (c) the size of the pot. No matter what your hand, unless it's the absolute nuts, these three reasons are reason to bet with the intention to push to a raise on the turn if you feel you're best.

Under any of these circumstances, let alone all three at the same time, you wanna make make the first move. Reacting is not an option.

That said, if you don't feel you're best, check/folding is your only option.

Originally Posted by Marm

Errrr..... what?

Pushing Preflop is not an option. We have A9s. There are already 3 in the pot, 1 raised and 2 cold called a raise. At least one, maybe two of those tards are coming along.

We are getting better than 4-1 assumed odds (thats assumed as in we assume the CS BB will alimp along too). That's plently good to limp here with a mid suited ace.

First off, pushing is always an option. I just move my little slider until it says all in and then click raise.

All kidding aside, pushing is an option against this type of table. Much of the time you'll find you're a 3:2 favorite, and most of the time you'll probably take the pot down. How many calling stations will call off all of their stack on the type of suited crap hands that they call a 3-5 bb raise with? Not many. And given that MP1 is an aggressive player, how much of a hand do we think he has? Even if he does have a calling hand heads up, he's got to worry about being sandwiched between your allin reraise and the 2 calling stations. And he's shown the ability to lay a hand down (otherwise I wouldn't even suggest an all in reraise).

All that being said, I probably just fold this one . . . the pot is going to be so large on the flop (about 1/3 of your remaining stack) that any bet at it will likely commit you to the pot. My experience with calling stations is that once they catch even a little piece of the flop, they're in for good. While that pads your implied odds, what happens if you flop an A, bet half the pot, and get called? You're going to put the rest of your money in on the turn anyway, so why not at least give yourself some folding equity PF?

But like I said, fold PF and wait for a slightly bigger hand (but not that big).

Originally Posted by Coryan

You have enough chips to play after your flop fold, and I'm not beating my tournament stack on A9s at this point.

And how often do you beat your tournament stack? Does your mom know about this??

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