One of the most enjoyable things is getting into a battle with a good player and winning. I think I took this one to the fourth level.
First, Read the HH and Say how you would play it. Then read my thoughts as to why I did what I did.
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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50./$1
7 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $33.90
Hero: $24.65
MP1: $32.90
CO: $8.20
Button: $50.70
SB: $30.45
BB: $58.65
Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is UTG+1 with![]()
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UTG folds, Hero raises, 4 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls (9.5:1).
Flop:![]()
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(8.5SB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls (14.5:1).
Turn:(7.25BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls (8.25:1).
River:(9.25BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls (12.25:1).
Results:
Final pot: 13.25BB
Hero shows Ac As
BB shows Kc Ks
I could have scripted this out before The hand was played out. I knew EXACTLY What he was doing and why on each street.
First off, this is the guy that has been the center of a lot of the blind steal/defense threads. Mungos is a very good player, I have just shy of 1300 hands on him, hes 17.2/10.6/3.5 with a low WSD With a high W$SD. He's very tight in the blinds too, and I have never seen him do anything untoward. But, He and I get into a lot of Blind battles, and way too many times he has folded to my flop CR's. He was starting to catch onto that move, and I fully expect him to start using it against me (and thats going to get ugly. I even mentioned to him that we needed to stop sitting next to each other).
I raise from EP with AA, standard. He 3 bets from the BB, which surprised me. Now I know this is only seven handed, but it was the first hand seven handed, and 2 seats had already filled, so I'm thinking neither of us is thinking the other had made any major adjustments. Which means he Has a GREAT hand. AKs or QQ+. I really don't think he raises from that spot HU into Me, a EP raiser, and I'm pretty sure hes a PT user, and if not he at least knows me, so I know he knows he's betting into a decent hand. But my cap doesn't tell him much, since I would be doing that with AQs+ and JJ+, but It does eliminate hands such as AJ from my holding.
The flop. That's an interesting Flop. BUT I KNOW HE DOESN'T HAVE A QUEEN, unless he's got quads, but I'm just going to ingnore that very tiny chance. But he doesn know that I know. But I know he's going to try and convince me. So I'm fully expecting a Checkraise here. I welcome it too, cause unless he has 44 (and he doesn't!), I'm so ahead. And it happens just like I knew it would. And now he's worried that I have a Queen, most likely AQs. If he really had a Queen, he would have waited to CR on the Turn. I know this because He doesn't know that I can think that deep yet, and he wouldn't know to catch me good wold be to CR the Flop instead with the Queen.
The turn. He's not sure what is going on, but He thinks I'm full of shit, and His Kings, which is the only hand that plays this way (He doesn't call the turn with AK and he's more aggressive with AA).
The River. He knows now, after doing some reflecting, he has come to the conclusion that I am full of shit and theres no way I have a Queen either. I have bluffed him too many times in the past for him to be giving me full credit here, so He's now thinking I have JJ, AA, or AK, so He's going to bet out for value. So I raise, Cause I know he has Kings, and now he's thinking he's screwed and has to call now.
And I win. Yay.
If this had been your average .5/1 player, I would said I was stupid and got lucky.
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Thread: Out-thinking the thinkers.
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05-17-2006 #1
Out-thinking the thinkers.
Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.
Luck is a Residue of Design.
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05-17-2006 #2
NH, good read!!!!
KJOriginally Posted by Girevik
Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!
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05-17-2006 #3
ya i didnt think about the CR on the turn play he might do buy thinking into the future like you, but i did know he had kings when he didnt cap flop and check called turn.
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05-17-2006 #4
Lets hope mungos doesnt find this forum, or at least this thread. :P
Nh, I guess. I dont play limit at all so this is way over my head. Looks like your pates'd it.
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05-17-2006 #5
Marm is channeling the power of Pates!
CORYAN
I don't play a lot of hands....I just play a lot of them poorly.
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05-18-2006 #6
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05-18-2006 #7Check Raiser
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Didnt read you analysis just the HH so if i beating a dead horse let me know
I guess i sorely dont understand limit(im a NL MTTer), seems pretty obvious to me that your winning this one after you got reraised PF, seems only logical hand that has you beat would be quad Qs or AQ.So now your basicaly just trying to milk him which seemed like he was pretty willing ot call down
But seeing as this was intellectualy i obviously dont know anyting about limit.
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05-19-2006 #8
Take it to the fifth level.. fold pre-flop and show.. they'd NEVER expect that....
Last edited by xxdemexx; 05-19-2006 at 04:09 AM.
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05-20-2006 #9
^thats like matrix thinking...
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