180 person SNG. Still playing it - I'm third in chips with 30 left.
No read on anyone, just moved to table. I though SB played it like a complete moron. But then maybe I did too?
He yelled and yelled in the chat after the hand. I put UTG on a huge range since his blinds were coming up, low M, and he pushed previous hand with no callers.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)
UTG (t1790)
Hero (t7615)
MP1 (t4475)
MP2 (t8800)
MP3 (t5310)
CO (t5450)
Button (t4927)
SB (t11505)
BB (t4720)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with,
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UTG raises to t1790, Hero calls t1790, 5 folds, SB raises to t3380, 1 fold, Hero calls t1590.
Flop: (t8750),
,
(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t4235 (All-In), SB folds.
Turn: (t12985)(2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (t12985)(2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: t12985
Results in white below:
UTG has Ac Qs (three of a kind, tens).
Hero has Ah Kd (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins t12985.
edit for clarity: I am in third as I post this, this hand was with maybe 80 left. Not sure exactly, but I had a little better than average stack.
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Thread: Did I donk this?
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05-16-2006 #1
Did I donk this?
Last edited by growlers; 05-16-2006 at 11:10 PM.
Originally Posted by Beavis68
Originally Posted by backdoor
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05-16-2006 #2
There was a side pot, so even if this was a bluff (you had plenty of outs to his lower pocket) its legit.
He did have a lower pocket right?
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05-16-2006 #3
I'm 2nd in chips with 14 left if anybody wants to sweat me!
He told me what he had but I'll wait for a few responses.
I'm not a very good NL player so I would like some analysis of SB's line if anyone would help me out.
Thanks!
Originally Posted by Beavis68
Originally Posted by backdoor
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05-16-2006 #4Chaser
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watching ya.. gl
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05-16-2006 #5
thx, Xone : keep in mind I suck at NL.
Originally Posted by Beavis68
Originally Posted by backdoor
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05-17-2006 #6
Standard.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)
UTG (t57658)
Hero (t59707)
CO (t39046)
Button (t45991)
SB (t43578)
BB (t24020)
Preflop: Hero is MP with
,
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1 fold, Hero raises to t4800, 3 folds, BB raises to t23945, Hero calls t19145.
Flop: (t48190)
,
,
(2 players)
Turn: (t48190)
(2 players)
River: (t48190)
(2 players)
Final Pot: t48190
Results in white below:
BB has Tc Jh (two pair, jacks and tens).
Hero has Ah Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: BB wins t48190.
Originally Posted by Beavis68
Originally Posted by backdoor
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05-17-2006 #7
Well 4/180 aint bad for a limit player. 1st SNG in 6 months. Could have easily squeaked out 2nd or 3rd as smaller stacks were playing weak tight but I was playing to win, and I don't give a shit about the money. Needed chips to have any shot heads-up.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t3000 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)
SB (t153718)
Hero (t47124)
UTG (t32976)
Button (t36182)
Preflop: Hero is BB with
,
.
2 folds, SB raises to t153568, Hero calls t43974 (All-In).
Flop: (t197992)
,
,
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: (t197992)
(2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (t197992)
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: t197992
Results in white below:
SB has 7s 8s (flush, jack high).
Hero has Tc As (one pair, threes).
Outcome: SB wins t197992.
This ends out brief river rats diversion, now back to the star of our show: critique my original hand!!!
Originally Posted by Beavis68
Originally Posted by backdoor
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05-17-2006 #8
Originally Posted by growlers
The SB screwed any chance of 'gentlemen's' play when he re-raised Preflop and created a sizable sidepot. Once that was done anything you do to win both it and the main pot is fair game.
Also, implied collusion (unspoken co-operation) doesn't (shouldn't?) really apply until you're at the finale table - with 80 still in the hunt, no-one had any implied (or otherwise) obligation to co-operate in eliminating an all-in player (according to Sklanski in Tournament for Advanced Players). If the SB did have a better hand it was up to him to protect it and not you to allow him a pass to the showdown.
Speaking of Sklanski and Tournamnets for Advanced Players - if anyone has read it - I just finished it and man, what a work of junk it was. Worst book by Sklanski I've read. I was hugely disappointed in it and what little it offered by way of "Advanced" strategy or +EV in knowledge, skill or understanding. This book has nothing to offer after reading Dan Harrington IMO.Last edited by Aces-o-8s; 05-17-2006 at 11:30 AM.

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05-17-2006 #9
You were spoiled by Harrington's books. I read Sklansky's prior to reading HOH and though I learned a little from Sklanky's, then read HOH and a bunch of light bulbs went off. It wasn't for HOH being so awesome, you would probably think Sklansky's was pretty decent.
Originally Posted by Aces-o-8s
And thanks for the excellent points about SB. He had 44 and tried to tell me I made a stupid call PREFLOP, and then a "ballsy but stupid move on the flop".
I usually don't table talk, but I proceeded to point out that his stupid preflop raise laid me like 2:1 (I wasn't doing exact math at the time) and then he stupidly checked the flop, and that he donked both streets - he finally admitted "that was my 1st mistake all night" and that "my time will come".
I of couse busted him around 30th on my way to 4th
Originally Posted by Beavis68
Originally Posted by backdoor
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05-17-2006 #10
Booya! hit the nail on the head.
Originally Posted by growlers
I think your actually a favorite to win from here anyway.. lets see..
Board: Tc Jc Ts
Dead:
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 46.7172 % 46.26% 00.45% { AhKs }
Hand 2: 53.2828 % 52.83% 00.45% { 4c4d }
Well not quite, but I still think it was a good play.
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