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05-14-2006, 09:20 AM
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River Rat
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Wat was i doing?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB (t1320)
Hero (t5945)
UTG (t7295)
UTG+1 (t2505)
MP1 (t2050)
MP2 (t6195)
MP3 (t790)
CO (t2560)
Button (t1925)
Preflop: Hero is BB with T  , 8  .
7 folds, SB raises to t300, Hero calls t150.
Flop: (t600) 4  , 9  , 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t600, SB raises to t1020, Hero calls t420.
Turn: (t2640) K (2 players)
River: (t2640) 8 (2 players)
Final Pot: t2640
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05-14-2006, 09:45 AM
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Poker Hustler
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Gee, the SB who only has an M of 5.5 min raises you when it folds around to him.
I wonder if this is a trap????
Of course it is.
Looks like you sucked out anyways with your trip 8's.
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Jason75: Ok, you check and the button bets 400. Now what?
Beavis68: You play poker.
Jason75: Darn, I was really hoping for canasta. Maybe Gin.
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05-14-2006, 01:23 PM
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PokerForums God
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Well, without any history, we can't make that judgement Jason. It could just as easily be a weak player trying to steal with the least amount of risk to himself. I think I could easily play that the same exact way.
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05-14-2006, 10:27 PM
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Even though you're effectively getting 10:1 odds to call here (you're likely getting all his chips if you hit on the flop) . . . I'm not really crazy about making the call here.
If he is trapping with a big hand and you hit a pair, then you've essentially committed all your chips to the pot drawing very slim. And at this point we've got a nice stack, so I'm not sure I see the value here.
Could it be a weak player who doesn't know any better? Sure, but I doubt we'd see a hand history posted here if it was.
Would be nice if we were given some info on the villian here.
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Jason75: Ok, you check and the button bets 400. Now what?
Beavis68: You play poker.
Jason75: Darn, I was really hoping for canasta. Maybe Gin.
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05-14-2006, 10:30 PM
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I have a love hate relationship with min raisers. I probably call too, but I have folded too. T8 is good enough for a call. T8 is my hail mary hand. Hell all flops have a T or an 8 right?
I llike your donkey style.
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05-14-2006, 10:48 PM
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I'd feel much more comfortable calling an all in than a min raise here. . . . .
But I'm just laying this down every time. In a tournament, we have to ask ourselves what's our advantage to playing this particular hand, and whether the risk is worth the potential reward. We have an M of 25 if we lay this hand down . . . but if we get ourselves in a shitty situation, the guy with 1300 in chips can really take a bite out of us.
If you're intent on playing this . . . min reraising might not be a bad idea. Give him a chance to fold (maybe). But . . . . seriously though, just lay it down.
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Jason75: Ok, you check and the button bets 400. Now what?
Beavis68: You play poker.
Jason75: Darn, I was really hoping for canasta. Maybe Gin.
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05-14-2006, 10:54 PM
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WEAK-TIGHT ALERT! WEAK-TIGHT ALERT!
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05-15-2006, 01:18 AM
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the call is ok,
i think on the flop tho i lead out for half-pot. makes folding that much easier if u are check-raised.
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05-15-2006, 01:55 AM
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how can beer get hot so fast? like 12oz from fridge in a glass, and after 3 minutes its like 85 degrees.
min raise always screwey. Is SB trying to make a weak play? He he playing AJs like a donly? Is he actually rasing a good hand???
IMo we cant tell, so we must ether call or raise. (cant just say he has 88+ i fold)
really i dont like calling or rasing eather. call, hell prolly lead flop, and we will prolly have missed so we fold. push pf, and we are prolly 62/38ish. And if we push, he will call. so i fold w/ intent on picking up 2 pots from the button and CO.
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05-15-2006, 02:39 PM
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by gder03
how can beer get hot so fast? like 12oz from fridge in a glass, and after 3 minutes its like 85 degrees.
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Thats why I keep a set of glass mugs in the freezer. Pour in the cold beer from the fridge and watch it freeze to the sides....
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