Playing Tribeca .50/$1 NL Hold Em, 9 handed. Have not been at table very long so no real reads. Doubled up from $50 to $100 but can't remember how.

UTG ($200) min raises to $2
LP ($100) call
I ($100) call button with
(Min raise UTG smells like KK/AA by some donk who will go all in with overpair if I flop something big)

Flop:

(pot $7.5)

UTG bets $4
LP calls
I reraise to $14
UTG calls
LP calls

Now I am about 99% sure UTG has AA/KK but the LP concerns me. I know I wouldn't play the hand like that without either a draw or a monster.

Turn is (pot $49.5)

UTG checks
LP bets $8
I call
UTG calls

I'm now trying to get to showdown cheap.


River

UTG all in
LP call

Will cost me $65 to potentially win $300

Do you call?
Do you think I made mistake on flop/turn?

Well, $200 of that $300 is tied up in with LP guy who has A7s IMO. But there is now another $100 up for grabs. I'm almost 100% sure we can win this.

I think this is a no lose situation (Ok yes, hes got JJ, but We doubt that). You call, win the side pot to break even, and there a decent enough chance to win the main pot (hell, we could be looking at a AA v QQ or AA vs TT type hand) to put us ahead. Therefore I think calling the river is +EV.

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Sorry post was unclear. I now have $100 aswell so there is no side pot. me and LP are both all in. If there was a side pot I'd call in a shot. I "know" UTG has AA/KK.

damn you marm i was almost about to post that i thought LP had A7
he just calls pf, i bet he would raise the minraise with qq-aa, what hand bets out once a jack falls, after the call on the flop?
A7 is the only hand that i can see him sensibly playing there.

as marm said though, you are freerolling. you know you have utg and his $200 stack. sure lp might have trip 7's, but in the long run people will donk here with AJ, TT, QQ, 88, etc

i dont think you can fold. tough hand though. post results plz

edit- shit... no sidepot? decision is alot tougher. still call, its prolly barely +EV now, but you have invested alot of $ into the pot, and your pot odds are pretty good for a close call like this on the river

lp will have a stupid hand like 88 enough for you to profit.

I'll post results after couple more thoughts.

I was thinking the LP should have either 33 or a 7, and with that board even 76 is outkicking me, so I folded.

I think you've got to raise on the turn to find out if one of the other players does indeed have a 7. . . I knew one player was going all in on the river as soon as I saw you flat called the turn (and what a ridiculous turn bet that was anyway).

On the river . . . jesus, who knows where we are. But we only have to be right 1 out of 6 times . . . . . so I'd likely call.

Then again . . . I suck at cash games . . .so don't listen to me.

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Jason75: Ok, you check and the button bets 400. Now what?
Beavis68: You play poker.
Jason75: Darn, I was really hoping for canasta. Maybe Gin.

Anyway the answer is that UTG had KK and the other player had J3! This is the second time at this level on this site I have seen someone valueing a clearly worthless second pair.

I have now added him to my buddy list, and am changing my calling requirements at this site. I still think this would have been a correct fold at my previous game, however on this occasion it was wrong.

No other info, I to make that fold, and you shouldn't doubt it either.

Jason brings up a good point. A turn raise would save yourself a lot of grief. I'd probably pop it another $30. This would allow you to release if you really think you're beat, but give you good enough odds to call an all-in if so forced. It's a bet aimed at giving you at least a semi-valid excuse for any action. Basically, it will put you into a position to not make a huge mistake, just marginal ones.

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l like how u played this hand on the flop. Turn, i would have played it differently tho. Flop, i would have done things a lil differently too

Flop - i would have raised it alot more. Flop im raising it to $23. If u kno ur opponent has a high PP here and hes willing to call a 2x potsize raise of $14, then he will for sure call a raise to $23. A rainbow flop of 773 with villian holding KK or AA, he will probably think he is ahead here 99% of the time. If u raise him, he will think to himself that the only 2 hands that beat me are 77 and 33 (both of which probably wouldnt have raised me on the flop). In this case UTG villian will think its more likely u have 88 99 TT JJ, maybe even 55 or 66. Since u flopped a monster hand, u want to play a big pot with UTG so u want to raise it alot more on the flop - this way ur turn bet can be alot higher.

Turn - im raising it up to $60 instead of flat calling. If the LP villian had a 7 or 33, im sure he would have re-raised you on the flop. Also his turn bet seems really weak for someone holding 33 or 7X. Its more likely that LP villian has something like 88 99 TT or JJ. And is just overvalueing his overpair. If he has trips with a higher kicker, then so be it.


The way i play this is raise to $23-24 on the flop, then push the turn.