Okay, this one perplexes me. I'm on the button w/ a great hand (I always play the button strong w/ first in...whether stealing or not)...but should I have called BB's allin?


***** Hand History for Game 4223715197 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Tue May 09 06:01:49 EDT 2006
Table Table 95425 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Coryan ( $24.65)
Seat 2: Polkka22 ( $22.90)
Seat 3: Baaash ( $25.67)
Seat 4: LISA90210 ( $24.30)
Seat 5: AFCWomble ( $8.05)
Seat 6: Keizer_Soze ( $23.75)
Seat 7: mokki ( $25.46)
Seat 8: surcouf1 ( $5.95)
Seat 9: bildstrom ( $25.50)
Seat 10: zale723 ( $35.75)
Polkka22 posts small blind (0.10)
Baaash posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Coryan [ As, Ks ]
LISA90210 folds.
AFCWomble folds.
Keizer_Soze folds.
mokki folds.
surcouf1 folds.
bildstrom folds.
zale723 folds.
Coryan raises (1) to 1
Polkka22 folds.
Baaash: steal?
Baaash raises (25.42) to 25.67
Baaash is all-In.
Coryan calls (23.65)
Coryan is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $46.95 with Coryan
Creating Side Pot 1 with $1.02 with Baaash
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, Qc, 3h ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Ad ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: $46.95 | Side Pot 1: $1.02 | Rake: $2.45
Board: [ Td Qc 3h 2d Ad ]

Coryan balance $0, lost $24.65 [ As Ks ] [ a pair of aces -- As,Ad,Ks,Qc,Td ]
Polkka22 balance $22.80, lost $0.10 (folded)
Baaash balance $47.97, bet $25.67, collected $47.97, net +$22.30 [ Ah Ac ] [ three of a kind, aces -- Ah,Ac,Ad,Qc,Td ]

Lines are now open and taking your calls...

CORYAN

no need to get your hole stack in with only $1 in the pot.

The player would have to be pretty bad before I would do that.

Baaash: steal?

please tell me you didnt fall for that....

unless hes been doing this repeatedly with any 2 cards, id fold. At best your in a coinflip situation, for your whole stack. unless you really shortstacked... not worth it.

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muahahaha

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I always considered AK as a hand to bet all-in and not a hand to call all-in

anyway... its my opinion.

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Villain said "steal?" before pushing. That's probably a tell that he wants you to call. Folding AKs preflop on the button is painful, but its still a drawing hand. Unless you have a read that villain is a maniac, overplays Ax and smaller pairs preflop, or would push KQ and the like, this is a folding situation. Rule of thumb, AK is best when you put your money in first.

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"There is a good chance I gave you a very bad description of something that doesn't work."

It wasn't a question of me falling for the "steal?" comment...I figured he had something decent. I actually hesitated before calling because I read that comment as meaning he had something good. I was just thinking it may be something weaker than AKs...maybe AQ, AJ (boy how we dream when we want our hand to be good). But after reading these comments, I think you are right...better to push this hand than to call with it. Not that I would have pushed here. This was a great time to lay down the hand and wait for a better opportunity. As has been pointed out...even if he decided to push any pair, I am risking my stack on a coin toss.

BTW, just more ammo for you to whip me with....he was only playing 20% of his hands.

Thanks for the comments.

CORYAN

20 % of his hands ?
This kind of tight player would only push with AA,KK,AKs and MAYBE QQ but im not even sure about QQ.

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you dont push with AK when you have 100bbs.