Live $4-8 limit game. Usual parade of loose-passives.

I have on the button. There are 3 limpers, I limp, blinds complete. 6 players see the flop:

SB check, BB check, UTG bets $4, Mp1 calls, CO calls, I call, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn (5 players):
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, CO now bets $8, I call (?), BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

River: (5 players):
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, CO bets $8, I ?????

I know that everyone will say raise the turn, and I don't want to present my reasoning yet, but I thought it was the right play to just call and still do.

Thoughts on turn and river play???

I think raising the turn might have driven out BB, UTG and MP1 (which is also my guess as to your reasoning for not raising) and you'll make more $ should your hand be the best. Seeing as you have them pegged as loose passive they'll probably stick around, UTG looks like he has a piece if the board and might to decide to call down as long as nobody shows much aggression. So I think the flat call might not be a bad idea.

The river I think I'd just call as well for the same reasoning as the turn play and if someone check raises we save an extra bet. Not the best card to have hit against a bunch of loose players and there is the possibilty that that 2 could have helped someone beat your flush, (assuming we're not against a higher flush already).

Well raising or calling on the turn depends on the people left to act, call the bets.

Are they the type that will call 2 cold with or ? Are they the type that will chase a straight even with 3 to flush on the board? If they are then raising is obviously the right play. The thing is here that most of the big hearts are gone, making calling a better play.

Again I would call the river for the exact same reason, I would imagine you are winning here most of the time but raising gains you only 1 BB and obviously loses you alot more when you are beat and get 3 bet.

The only street that I would really raise is the flop for the free card, but then the whole hand obviously plays alot differently.

Originally Posted by Phytopath

The only street that I would really raise is the flop for the free card, but then the whole hand obviously plays alot differently.

Well, I disagree here. The whole idea of the free card play is to raise the flop to save half a bet if you don't hit your flush on the turn. Great play if you are against 1 or 2 , maybe 3 players. But against this many players with a big draw like this I just call it on the flop because you want tons of people to come along if you hit, If you hit you are probably good as long as another heart doesn't come on the river.
I think if I raised the flop a bunch of people drop out. I also don't want to get reraised by the original bettor, this is a board where someone easily could flop top two pair. But I may be wrong on this, so I'd like to hear your thoughts.

I actually tend to call down in this same type of situation. I seem to save myself some money in the long run when someone else has the flush as well as me. If someone else is sitting on two hearts you are screwed, and calling down gives you the option to still win, but without getting into a raising war with another higher flush. I have pretty much always done that when I am at the turn and river with a low flush.