I was supposed to call the turn, wasn't I?

**Mr.McJ** · 05-07-2006

I'm not exactly sure why I didn't.

Check out what the villain showed, too.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed)

UTG+1 (t1300)
MP1 (t1375)
MP2 (t3225)
MP3 (t2420)
CO (t1540)
Button (t95)
Hero (t3380)
BB (t3605)
UTG (t2500)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

,

.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t100, 1 fold, MP2 calls t100, MP3 calls t100, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t500)

,

(5 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t100, UTG+1 calls t100, MP2 calls t100, MP3 calls t100, Hero calls t100.

Turn: (t1000)

(5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets t300, MP2 calls t300, MP3 folds, Hero folds, BB folds.

River: (t1600)

(2 players)
UTG+1 bets t800 (All-In), MP2 folds.

Final Pot: t2400

Results in white below:
UTG+1 shows 7d 7h.
Outcome: UTG+1 wins t2400.

**Mr.McJ** · 05-07-2006

And this was the very next hand....

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed)

UTG (t2400)
UTG+1 (t1375)
MP1 (t2725)
MP2 (t2220)
MP3 (t1540)
CO (t95)
Hero (t3180)
SB (t3405)
BB (t2500)

Preflop: Hero is Button with

,

.
3 folds, MP2 raises to t600, 3 folds, SB calls t525, 1 fold.

Flop: (t1350)

,

(2 players)
SB bets t1200, MP2 raises to t1620, SB calls t420.

Turn: (t4590)

(2 players)

River: (t4590)

(2 players)

Final Pot: t4590

Results in white below:
SB has Td Th (two pair, tens and threes).
MP2 has As Ad (two pair, aces and threes).
Outcome: MP2 wins t4590.

**Pok 7's** · 05-07-2006

Don't worry about it RNG's don't work like a regular deck of cards.

**gder03** · 05-07-2006

your getting 5.3:1 on hand 1 on the turn. so what are the odds for 8 outs out of 46 cards? 6:1 i think??? good fold. + implied= maybe bad fold idk.

add in 3+3 for possible outs for a pair = ???? his hand dosnt look like a King to me.

**11 11** · 05-07-2006

MP2 could be calling on the flush draw the whole way making your outs down to 6....i dunno its a boarderline call/fold

**pates** · 05-08-2006

i would never call this on the turn, you're just not getting the pot odds on the draw... The cards are random generated too, that card probs wouldn't of come down if you called.

**manguydude21** · 05-08-2006

1st hand...I call the turn...these hands are the hands You wanna stay in cuz if someone hits 9 high str8. You almost garunteed their whole stack with your 10 high

and the 2nd hand i fold

**Jason75** · 05-08-2006

Hand 1: I'd call this every day of the week and twice on sunday. You have position, and it's only 300 more to call 1600 . . . . 5.3:1.

I'm assuming that at least one player is on the flush draw, so you're looking at 6 outs or about 7:1 odds wise. That 1.7 differential only represents winning a bet of about 500 on the river if you hit . . . . easy money.

The call only brings you down from about 3200 to 2900 . . . . a difference in your M between about 21 to 19. . . . not a significant enough difference to warrant folding.

Second hand . . . that raise puts you in a difficult situation with your pair of 4's. You don't have the odds to play them for set value, and out of position you really don't want to play them for pair value. This is either a fold, stop and go (all in on the flop), or reraise all in for a steal.

Of course, I think doing a stop and go with 44 against 2 players is ill advised. I'd be tempted to reraise here to try and take down the pot. Of course I'd get called, and get lucky!!!!

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