What do you guys think of this?

Table had been pretty loose, especially the big stacks. I was in the top 15% in chips with 180+ left, but you can see what I was up against. Every raise was called. I was running card dead, and had one major suck out to get me this far, the rest of stealing. I was just maintaining my stack. The bubble was at 100, the first play was 1k, that is where I was aiming.


Hand #31608939-140 at Sat901pm-010 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
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Started at 06/May/06 22:58:54

rastj is at seat 0 with 23890.
Caillou4363 is at seat 1 with 8225.
passdacash is at seat 2 with 10000.
beavis68 is at seat 3 with 10380.
fluke98 is at seat 4 with 19185.
ronecha is at seat 5 with 8055.
Jn1010 is at seat 6 with 4725.
Deuce12084 is at seat 7 with 12490.
johnnyax is at seat 8 with 9740.
gizmo88 is at seat 9 with 11785.
The button is at seat 3.

rastj posts ante (25).
Caillou4363 posts ante (25).
passdacash posts ante (25).
beavis68 posts ante (25).
fluke98 posts ante (25).
ronecha posts ante (25).
Jn1010 posts ante (25).
Deuce12084 posts ante (25).
johnnyax posts ante (25).
gizmo88 posts ante (25).
ronecha posts the small blind of 150.
Jn1010 posts the big blind of 300.

rastj: -- --
Caillou4363: -- --
passdacash: -- --
beavis68:
fluke98: -- --
ronecha: -- --
Jn1010: -- --
Deuce12084: -- --
johnnyax: -- --
gizmo88: -- --

Pre-flop:

Deuce12084 folds. johnnyax folds. gizmo88 folds.
rastj calls. Caillou4363 folds. passdacash folds.
beavis68 goes all-in for 10355. fluke98 folds.
ronecha folds. Jn1010 folds. rastj ??

i dont mind it really.
not a play i would do vs the chip leader at the table tho. Although im sure that if he calls, u will either be a coin flip or a favourite.

you might as well make this play with 7-2... you would have better odds if you got called

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lol well actually AKs vs AA is actually slightly better then 72o vs AA. But unless ur talking about 72s vs AA, then ya its better.

I'm not raising allin. Allmost nobody calls with AQ or less so why would try to double up with a coin flip. You have better skills then the rest, so play poker. Make a value bet.

why go all-in, good question.

1. I was getting tired.

2. If I raise to 1200 and get called - which all raises had been called, the pot is going to be almost 3k. Even a minimum cont. bet means I am going to be putting in another 1500, so I am looking at investing at least 1/4 of my stack. If another player calls, the pot is going to be over 4k.

3. I was hoping one of the shorter stacks may make a bad call.

I hate having a big stack at a table full of big stacks.

Well... I dont mind about pushing allin preflop with AK here.

Its probably a coin filp or better and if you want to take 1st place, you have to win some of those coin flips...

If he calls you may doubble up...

If he folds increase your stack by 10% or soo... + you increase your chances to see a call if you do the same play with AA or KK in the next orbit or 2.

However... thats not the most safe play I've seen... but hey, we have to live with it!

KJ

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Originally Posted by Girevik
Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!

In certain circumstances (like those you describe) I think this is a decent play. And because to a certain type of player it appears desperate it does get call with a range of hands.

Obviously you're lucky if you dominate if called, but a coinflip to double up under unfavourable table conditions before it's too late to give you a significant chance of success in the tourney is not to be sniffed at.

Yes, in "normal circumstances" it would be preferable to play the hand with a bit more subtlety, but I think it's a good play here though not one to overuse.

Seems a tad desperate. If you had a made hand like AA-QQ, I'd really like the play (going all in here has more of the bullshit factor). Frankly, I don't want to race with AK against the CL here (I know he's also likely to call with A8+ or KQ/KJ because of the bullshit factor) . . . you're still in really good shape in the tourney (card dead or not . . . what's past is not necessarily prologue).

But I know we have different playing styles . . . so overall I can live with the play. I'd just rather not have the limper in the pot be the CL when I do this . . . just seems like you run into a slow played big hand too often, and if you're racing it's for your life.

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Jason75: Ok, you check and the button bets 400. Now what?
Beavis68: You play poker.
Jason75: Darn, I was really hoping for canasta. Maybe Gin.

BTW, due to the presence of the antes and his call, I'd recommend a much larger raise than to 1200 total. You'd be giving him 2.4:1 . . . . almost what he needs to call with a dominated ace.

I'd raise at least the pot here . . . . say to 2600 total (there's 1000 in the pot and the call portion of your raise is 300, so 1300 x 2 = 2600). He'd have about 1.6:1 . . . and would be making a mistake to call with any dominated hand.

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Jason75: Ok, you check and the button bets 400. Now what?
Beavis68: You play poker.
Jason75: Darn, I was really hoping for canasta. Maybe Gin.