Ok I've found this article recently:
http://www.texasholdem-poker.com/nolimit_betting.php
It seems though the mathematics are wrong.
From what I figure, it is more than enough to put in a pot-sized bet if somebody else is on a flush draw (if he misses I can still bet on the river again)
Say the pot is $100. I bet $100 so the ratio pot vs the bet for him is 2:1 right?
But the odds of him catching the right card is only 5:1 (on the turn)?
So even half-the-pot bet is sufficient here?
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Thread: Pot odds - headache :(
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05-05-2006 #1
Pot odds - headache :(
Last edited by OrionPro; 05-05-2006 at 03:27 PM.
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05-05-2006 #2
think maybe 4.5:1 to catch on any street.
so if there is 3$ in a pot on flop and you bet 2$ its 2$ for him to call a 5$ pot so 5:2 = 2.5:1
bet 1$ and its 1 for him to call a 4 pot, so 4:1I get more ass than a toilet seat. All shapes/colors/sizes.

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05-05-2006 #3PokerForums God
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they are making the mistake of using chance of making it on the turn and river for flop odds. The problem is that you aren't getting both cards for free. NL it is hard to figure this stuff exactly because of implied odds.
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05-05-2006 #4
Yeah but that's exactly what I'm saying? (except you gave a better approx. for catching the flush)
Originally Posted by gder03
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05-05-2006 #5
If you played with your cards face up you could make a bet giving 4-1 on a flush draw and be correct.
However if you ever pay off a bet on river when flush card hits you will now be giving better than 4-1.
Similarly, if you always fold to any bet when a flush card hits on river you will fold a lot of winners, as you are easily bluffed.
Unless you are 100% opponent is on flush draw it's best to not try and give too tempting odds.
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05-06-2006 #6
With bluffing it gets too complex so I just assume here I know it.
IMO since I can still go 'all in' when the turn misses, he's not getting correct odds to call even a half-sized pot bet.
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05-06-2006 #7
If the villain assumes he has the full 9 outs for a flush, he needs pot odds of 4:1 to justify a call to see just 1 more card (if we ignore implied odds). So betting over 1/3 the size of the pot is technically correct if implied odds = 0.
Check out this thread on pot odds:
Pot Odds
Originally Posted by ypsieast
"There is a good chance I gave you a very bad description of something that doesn't work."
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05-06-2006 #8
Thanks, that's the best post I've seen on the subject!
Combined with the stuff Harrington writes I hope to vastly improve now.
Last edited by OrionPro; 05-06-2006 at 10:12 AM.
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