Okay I think this is a little more of a donkey hand turned good, the players involved in the the hand rate like this:

SB- Calling Station LPP - 28.8/1.69/0.63 goes to the SD 62%... 117 hands
CO- Fish LPP - 30.5/4.24/0.70....118 hands
Button - Fish LPP - 31.5/2.59/1.17....232 hands

Post flop I figured it might be worth swiming with them for a bit, I was thinking afterwards is just calling best here?

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero calls, 4 folds, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) , , (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (8.25 BB) (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button calls, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, CO folds, Button folds, BB calls.

Final Pot: 16.25 BB

Results in white below:
BB has 8c JavaScript (two pair, jacks and eights).
Hero has Kd Td (flush, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins 16.25 BB.

River.

Preflop: fold! Trap hand and not profitable UTG.

flop / turn: Not sure what phyto has a problem with here, am I missing something? Someone probably has an A, I don't see any point in getting in a raising war here.

River: I would have checkraised this since your flush was backdoor. Someone will bet this for you, and you can raise. There is major risk that everyone will just flatcall you or fold when you bet out. Make more by checkraising since someone will surely bet. If you had made a flush on the river with two on the flop, then betting out I think is probably best since it is obvious that someone go there, but with the backdoor I checkraise.

The way you played it I would have flatcalled, I think when you run the likely scenerios you make 1 extra bet by flatcalling as phyto said.

Originally Posted by growlers

Preflop: fold! Trap hand and not profitable UTG.


The way you played it I would have flatcalled, I think when you run the likely scenerios you make 1 extra bet by flatcalling as phyto said.

I'm sure my PF call is debateable, but I still tend to stick fairly rigid to SSH guidelines for tight games in my hand selection. I'm sure if it was a table with a lot of PF raising and mostly aggressive players it's not worth it. Unless I flop a real good draw I'm usually tossing it post flop.

I was thinking afterwards that flat calling would've made me more, instead of making it 2 more bets to the CO and button. I wasn't sure about the CR because the button was the only one betting each street. Idealy I think I would've liked to see the CO betting.

So the idea of any 2 suited cards ten or higher is a "no no" UTG? Again, I'm just using SSH guidelines here. I know it's not the greatest hand.... had I gotten raised PF after I limped I'm folding here but the table was relatively passive.

Flop defiantely a loose call I agree I went into it knowing that.