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Thread: 25nl hand

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    Default 25nl hand

    I havn't been stealing anything. maybe 1 or twice in the last 60 hands. The SB I dont know much about. The BB is good.


    andybytches is at seat 0 with $16.05.
    gder03 is at seat 1 with $59.50.
    m0nr0e360 is at seat 2 with $20.85.
    TexasEagle is at seat 3 with $26.70.
    opstunner13 is at seat 4 with $7.15.
    ttpier is at seat 5 with $6.25.
    The button is at seat 1.

    m0nr0e360 posts the small blind of $.10.
    TexasEagle posts the big blind of $.25.

    gder03: JavaScript As


    Pre-flop:

    opstunner13 folds. ttpier folds. andybytches folds. gder03 raises to $.85. m0nr0e360 calls. TexasEagle folds.

    Flop (board: 4s 6s 5d):

    m0nr0e360 bets $1.95. gder03 raises to $7.80. m0nr0e360 calls.

    Turn (board: 4s 6s 5d Th):

    m0nr0e360 goes all-in for $12.20. gder???
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    easy fold

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    That would be a fold.

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    not sure if i like the huge re-raise on the flop but im defintly folding on the turn
    If there wern't luck involed i guess id win everyone

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    if you are going to raise that much on the flop, set him all in there when your equity is huge.

    Do you know anything about this player? Would tha flop have hit him? Think your jacks and aces are still live cards?

    What is the pot size on the turn? Why are you making up do all the work? How can we answer without knowing the size of the pot?

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    I dont love the big raise on the flop, but nw that its done this is a straight pot odds decision with villain all in.

    I am too tired to add up the pot, but it does not look like you have the odds to draw here.

    And you are most definately drawing....IMHO

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    I would have just done 2XBB if anything, then if he raised on the flop folded, you don't have pot odds in this situation.

    Chances of hitting a hand on the flop: 8.33:1
    52cards - (2 pocket cards) = 50
    Cards that would help = (3A's + 4J's) = 6
    50/6 = 8.33:1

    The chances of hitting a hand on the river were: 3:1.
    52cards - (2cards in hand + 4 on the board) = 46
    Cards that would help = (3A's + 3J's +9 spades) = 15
    46/15 = 3.066:1

    Pot odds were 2.41:1 with his raise, any action mathematically besided folding would be unprofitable, however in this situation its a matter of the type of player he is, loose or aggressive a call might have been the best action.

    I would have folded with the 1.85 raise, he either had a monster or was playing too reckless, and you shouldn't put your stack at risk for a maniac to take it all. At that point you would just be loosing less than 4 bets which can easily be won in one good hand instead of risking 80BB.

    If I saw someone raising after the flop like you did I would have thought you were bluffing because you didn't hit your high on the first round making any small connected suited pair I had valuable.

    As Beavis said the better action would have been All in if you were going to raise that much because after your 7.80 you were pretty committed to the pot.

    What was your action?

    Possibilities:
    He had a pocket pair.
    Was playing a crappy starting hand and flopped a straight.
    Is a complete fish....

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    On the turn, pot is $29.75. $12.20 to see the river. Pot Odds = 2.4 to 1
    Need about 30% PE to call. (14 outs)

    You need to be very sure that you win with any A or J, in addition to having at least 8 draws to the flush to justify calling here.

    Villain has got to be putting you on either an overpair, a set, or the nut flush draw (although this could be giving villain too much credit; i dunno).

    His calling the big reraise on the flop instead of just reraising all in right there is a head scratcher. Not sure what this means.

    He could have so many hands here, a lot depending on what he would call with pf. But, IMO, there is no way we can feel good about having enough outs to make the call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rascal
    The chances of hitting a hand on the river were: 3:1.
    52cards - (2cards in hand + 4 on the board) = 46
    Cards that would help = (3A's + 3J's +9 spades) = 15
    46/15 = 3.066:1

    that is wrong.

    15/46 is 1/3.06 which is 2.06:1 against hitting, not 3.06:1

    you are confusing chance and odds, your chance is 1 in 3 but your odds are 2 to 1 against. Odds are expressed with the ":" symbol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ypsieast
    His calling the big reraise on the flop instead of just reraising all in right there is a head scratcher. Not sure what this means.
    it means he flopped something huge, had a set of tens, or is a donkey.

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