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    Default Do you think I played these TOO aggressively?

    Hand #1:

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed)

    Hero (t3680)
    BB (t3720)
    UTG (t4925)
    MP (t5085)
    CO (t3150)
    Button (t20978)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
    1 fold, MP raises to t400, 2 folds, Hero calls t300, BB calls t200.

    Flop: (t1025) , , (3 players)
    Hero bets t1000, BB raises to t3295, MP folds, Hero calls t2255 (All-In).

    Turn: (t7575) (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: (t7575) (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: t7575

    Results in white below:
    Hero has JavaScript Qs (flush, ace high).
    BB has Th Ac (two pair, aces and tens).
    Outcome: Hero wins t7535. BB wins t40.




    Hand #2:

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed)

    Hero (t9090)
    BB (t5399)
    UTG (t6440)
    UTG+1 (t7510)
    MP1 (t7435)
    MP2 (t5910)
    MP3 (t3555)
    CO (t3058)
    Button (t19103)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
    7 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (t800) , , (2 players)
    Hero bets t800, BB raises to t1600, Hero calls t800.

    Turn: (t4000) (2 players)
    Hero bets t7065 (All-In), BB folds.

    Final Pot: t11065

    Results in white below:
    No showdown. Hero wins t11065.

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    hand #1 i probably check-raise him all in on the flop.

    hand #2 i raise pf to try to steal blinds.

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    You are favourite on the 1st hand, and have a pretty monster draw on the 2nd flop too.

    I would be happy to push all in on either flop.

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    Hand #1
    Like WW said, while you may be behind, you are the favorite to win. Pot is a decent size at 1k, so I would be happy taking it down right here. I probably push right away for maximum fold equity in case he's on the nut flush draw. Ax and Kx of spades are the only hands I'm worried about.
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    Hand #1: On the flop, you have a lot of options here . . . this one depends entirely on our read of MP and the BB (but mostly MP).

    Is that 2x bb raise a big pp? If we think it is, then we literally have no folding equity (nobody is going to lay down JJ+ on this board).

    Is that a raise by an ace (A7+)? If so, we're about a 3:2 favorite here.

    I think with this board, it's likely we'll face a continuation bet.

    The question we have to answer is: Do we want to put our whole tournament on the line with this draw? If they have an overpair, we're just about a coinflip here . . . .

    All in all, given our M (12) and the presence of a huge stack at the table (button with nearly 21k), I'm check raising this all in and praying for a call to double up.

    Hand 2: King high is a favorite vs a random hand. I'd raise here just about every time. I want to get my opponent to define his hand, and I'd really just like to take this pot down and not play out of position. I'd rather fold than call with this hand.

    On the flop, if he wants to play chicken by raising when we're a huge favorite, let's reraise enough to put him all in (I don't like jumping all in, I really want a call - I think I'm ahead here with my king-high, and even if I'm not, I'm a favorite with all my draws).

    I don't like the flat call, because now we have to win the hand, and we're very unlikely to get paid off if any of our cards hit (except the inside straight draw). And a K hits on the turn, we jump all in . . . . blech.

    If we're going to bet, let's make a value bet he can call here . . . . we're clearly winning this hand (I'm putting him on a 6 with a bad kicker). I'd prefer to check like we're scared of the king and see if he wants to try and take the pot down by going all in.
    Last edited by Jason75; 04-27-2006 at 09:18 AM.
    Jason75: Ok, you check and the button bets 400. Now what?
    Beavis68: You play poker.
    Jason75: Darn, I was really hoping for canasta. Maybe Gin.

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    OOP vs a short stacked opponent I am not sure that stealing with K4s is the best option. If he calls the pot is going to be pretty big and you will probably be committed to the hand. K4s isn't that big of a favorite PF vs a random hand.

    Blind vs blind it is really hard to tell where you are in the hand on the flop. but you probably have between 12 and 15 outs. but you could only have 9. the case for pushing isn't as clear here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis68
    Blind vs blind it is really hard to tell where you are in the hand on the flop. but you probably have between 12 and 15 outs. but you could only have 9. the case for pushing isn't as clear here.
    How could we only have 9 outs? Unless we're facing 45 (nut straight), we've got at least 12 outs (flush + inside straight draw).

    And we could also have the best hand right now (tough to know since it's blind vs. blind and we didn't raise) . . . . . . the raise could easily be a bluff.
    Jason75: Ok, you check and the button bets 400. Now what?
    Beavis68: You play poker.
    Jason75: Darn, I was really hoping for canasta. Maybe Gin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis68
    OOP vs a short stacked opponent I am not sure that stealing with K4s is the best option. If he calls the pot is going to be pretty big and you will probably be committed to the hand. K4s isn't that big of a favorite PF vs a random hand.
    With 2nd big stack vs 3rd lowest stack a blind steal here is certainly a good bet with K-4s - IMO. It give the hero another way to win the hand as well as keeping on the pressure to a lower stack. With blinds at 400, a 2xBB raise would likely be enough to get a fold but not so expensive if it's called and with pretty good cards vs a random hand. With only 800 invested out of 9090 stack I don't see how you feel he would be pot committed! Even with a 3xBB of 1200 doesn't make me feel pot committed - I can still walk away from a re-raise and still have a decent stack to work with. I would be thinking the BB has more worries than I do and has more reason to fold a random hand once I have put on the pressure. If he calls, well, that's the gambling part of the game isn't it?

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    Hero (t9090)
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    3x raise out of position when he only has to call 2bbs. I think that is too small, but ok. You donk in 1200 in chips.

    there is 2400 chips in the pot, you bet 1200. he pushes.

    there is now 3600+4200 in the pot - 7800 it costs you 3000 to call.
    how many hands are you going to fold getting those kinds of odds? and when you do you look like a thieving punk that just lost 2400 to steal 600.

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