Hand #1

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)

CO (t2515)
Button (t2210)
SB (t1325)
BB (t2195)
UTG (t1800)
Hero (t3455)

Preflop: Hero is MP with , .
1 fold, Hero raises to t255, 3 folds, BB calls t155.

Flop: (t560) , , (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t500, BB raises to t1940, Hero calls t1440.

Turn: (t4440) (2 players)

River: (t4440) (2 players)

Final Pot: t4440

Results in white below:
BB has 4d 2d (flush, nine high).
Hero has 8s 8h (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: BB wins t4440.

Hand #2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)

SB (t1260)
BB (t1480)
UTG (t1230)
UTG+1 (t1475)
MP1 (t1630)
MP2 (t2955)
MP3 (t1410)
Hero (t1915)
Button (t1645)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
5 folds, Hero calls t50, Button calls t50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t200) , , (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t100, Button calls t100, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: (t400) (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t200, Hero calls t200.

River: (t800) (2 players)
Hero bets t500, Button raises to t1000, Hero raises to t1500, Button calls t295 (All-In).

Final Pot: t3595

Results in white below:
Hero has Ts Jc (three of a kind, jacks).
Button has 5h 5c (full house, fives full of jacks).
Outcome: Button wins t3390. Hero wins t205.

Originally Posted by WotaWaster

I would need a very good read on a player to fold the 1st hand on the flop.

People could make that push with:

A8 and A of diamonds (even just A of diamonds)
overpair + a diamond
lower trips
made flush

Worst case scenario of made flush you still have many outs.

My thoughts exactly. Even against a flush, I have 7 outs (+ runner, runner pair) for about 8 outs or 32%. That's 2.1 to 1 odds if I know he has a made flush and I was getting just under 2.1 to 1 pot odds.

Hand 1: I'm with Irexes . . . don't raise this hand PF at this point. You've got way too many chips . . . and you're not going to win very much when it folds around. All you end up doing is building a big pot you can't get away from. On the flop, when I bet and get check raised you should hear something like this in your head:

"WOOP! WOOP! RED ALERT CAPTAIN!!! WE JUST GOT OUR ASS CHECK RAISED!!!"

A check raise is a very strong play, so when it happens to you, you need to back up and rethink. Ignore the implications of a check raise at your own peril.

In SNG's, I like to get my money in when I know I'm a huge favorite, and his check raise on a flush flop is enough for me to say to myself "Ah, shit . . . . I'm not sure where I am, I'll let it go". If you hadn't raised this PF your flop bet would be much smaller, and thus much easier to get away from. Instead, you've now pretty much trapped yourself into a no win situation (unless you suck out the FH). If this is a bluff, remember this: If you don't get bluffed out every now and then, you're calling way too much.

Hand 2: I can't believe Irexes you would fold this. I'm calling here every time. JTo is a nice little speculative hand . . . particularly because it always flops the nut straight. But middle pair in a crowded field is a trap hand.

Don't bet this flop, for the love of god. Everyone got to see the flop, so AJ, KJ, QJ, J5, 55, and any A are way ahead of you. On the turn, when you hit the second J and get flat called for a second time, you've got to know it's very likely you're up against a better hand.

At the river, your hand is medium strength . . . don't bet it (typical mistake so many players make). Check/call (likely I check/fold . . . for the same reason that I don't like guessing with so many chips when I know I can get them in better spots). When you do bet it and get raised, you compound the mistake by reraising. Ug. Please just call, and strongly consider folding (I'd fold like a cheap suit).