I dont have a very big sample for the moment, but I really think SNG could be a lot more profitable when only 1 or 2 tabing.
I normaly have a pretty big ROI 4 and 5 tabling 5$+.75 Jackpot and 20$+2 SNGs, but lately I drop down to 2 and 1 tabling, cause my bankroll is a bit low due to downswing after a cash out.
After plying 21 SNG only 1 tabling or 2 ytabling, I'm now 20 buy ins up! Insane... I know I cant sustain that win rate...
This really allows me to mix things up a lot more, but even more making moves according to my opponents habbits.
Just an example, called an allin bet on the flop with 2nd pair + a str8 draw. Opponent had an under pair. I defianately would have fold that one with a weak read. But at that point my read on him was strong enough combined with my drawing odds.
I doubled up on that one, and it allows me to survive abad beat a few hands larter. Went to win the ole thing.
My question is do you guys have bigger sample of 1-tabling VS 4+ tabling?
I ask, cause I really feel more comfortable with my roll now, and I'm about to start multitabling again.
Any input apreciated
KJ
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Thread: Multi Tabling SNGs VS 1 tabling?
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04-20-2006 #1
Multi Tabling SNGs VS 1 tabling?
Originally Posted by Girevik
Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!
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04-20-2006 #2
personally, i can multi-table ring no problem but i cant seem to handle more than 2 SNGs at the same time and i actually prefer only playing one......think its the same as yourself in that i can get reads a lot easier and feel more comfortable in the reads that i then have
i dont even feel comfortable playing a SNG with a ring game going too
no sample size worth talking about tho as i only go on "binge" sessions at SNGs when i get fed up with ring
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04-20-2006 #3PokerForums God
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your ROI may be higher, but what about your hourly rate?
personally, I never could multitable SnGs. Too tense when it gets short handed. I wold play a ring and close it when we got 4-5 handed.
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04-20-2006 #4
With the ROI I have now, my hourly rate is definately good enough to justify 2 tabling only. Of course part of my improuvement is due to variance, but I think I willplay another 50 SNG and see...
Originally Posted by Beavis68
KJOriginally Posted by Girevik
Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!
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04-20-2006 #5Poker Hustler
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funny you brought this up, I was gonna post something on this.
I usually 4-table SnGs, generally the turbos without a problem. Optimal play is usually fairly robotic, I limp early with some speculative hands and play very aggressively as the blinds go up, usually just all-ins after awhile. I find that I make the most playing this way.
I recently tried the uber-multi tabling method of stacking 10+ SnGs (I dropped down to the 6.50s and boot up 10 or 12) and just hitting the buttons as they come up. I think this method can work, but you really need a script as I need practice at it and it really isn't that much fun.
By playing more smaller buy-in SnGs versus a single larger buy-in I think that your varience will be lower and your profits will be about the same, maybe better due to the somewhat weaker opponents.
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04-20-2006 #6
I'm dont play SNGs but I will point out something I've said before. While your hourly rate might be better playing multiple lower stakes games, you dont learn as much. Personally, I have much more fun and feel like I learn more playing 1 mabye 2 tables. What I enjoy about poker is its depth and alot of that is lost with multiple tables.
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04-20-2006 #7
i usually 4 table my sng's. any more and i get distracted, any less and im bored.
my buddy 8 tables, but he has 2 19" monitors. lol.
obviously if you play better with a less ammount of tables you are going to make more money. just play whats comfortable for you.
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04-21-2006 #8
I've actually found that I do best when only 1 or 2 tabling. I've tried 4 and even 6 tabling (10 tabling sounds insane!! - I think I'd drop dead after about an hour), but my ROI went down quite a bit. My hourly rate does go up, but I find I have to take more breaks and can't keep playing for as long (my mind turns to mush).
If you are going to multi table beyond 2, I'd recommend buying a second or even third screen - I found the most difficulty I had was when I switched to a table, I couldn't really remember which one it was. If the windows were on top all the time on different screens, I think this would be much simplier.Jason75: Ok, you check and the button bets 400. Now what?
Beavis68: You play poker.
Jason75: Darn, I was really hoping for canasta. Maybe Gin.
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04-21-2006 #9
Definitely the less tables you play will improve your performance on those tables.
As everyone knows there are small tells that only paying attention to the table will show up. Whilst placing a bet on another table you can miss these.
I don't play poker for a living so am not worried about daily returns, but I do pride in playing well and winning at what I do play.
I used to play one sng and a couple of cash tables at the same time, consequently this led to me playing the cards more often than not and not the players and without great return.
Now I just concentrate on sng tables only one at a time and multi's from my sng wins (also one at a time). This has improved my player reading skills and "no pocket cards" game dramatically. This week alone I have added a third of my bank roll to my account (I play approx 5hrs per evening ... and have a very understanding other half .. lol).
That said I will still multi table play in the future but will see it as an opportunity to try and hone my skills and reading reactions, and I certainly won't be staking a large proportion of my bank roll.
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04-21-2006 #10
I only ever 1 table. I've tried everything up to 4 tabling ring and 2 and 3 tabling SnGs and MTTs but I'd rather play a single table at the highest stakes I feel comfortable at.
As for SnG ROI, you can get runs in SnGs where the ROI is insane for 30 or 40 buyins but over 100+ is good but not spectacular, you can also have runs of 10 of them without cashing without doing a thing wrong and that really hits the ROI
. I think you need about 250 of them before you get a "true" sample, although even then a good or poor run can make a huge difference.
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