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    Super Moderator WotaWaster's Avatar
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    Default Playing trips (not sets)

    How would people play (barring reads but as a general rule) when flopping trips in such a situation as this:

    Average NL Hold Em Table $100 buy in. All players have 100BB stacks infront of them.

    4-5 way limped pot, you are on BB with K7 and flop comes down KK3.

    SB checks - do you bet?
    If you bet and get a call/raise - how do you proceed?

    Do you attempt check raise?
    How do you respond if reraised?

    Do you check -call?
    Do you check fold?

    I just find this sort of hand to be so troublesome. If I have K7 and hit one K against 5 players I probably check fold, but don't with trips. Yet the same problem exists, that if someone else has a K, I am outkicked and if they are giving action with no K they may well have full house.

    I usually end up going into check-call mode, which I'm not sure is correct.

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    i bet pot.

    People are gunna slow play it, so if someone calls, they could have K. if someone raises me, image is a big part. if no image, then i have to call. the call will be inaccurate though, thats why we need the image.

    cheking this is bad imo, thes flops can easilly cost 100bb, if you decide to slowplay and run into someone elses K.
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    Default tripped up

    This is player dependent.

    If you lead out strongly the only person who is going to call will have you beat..

    You don't want to give anyone free odds to hit a trip on the river or turn. So you must bet. If you have four ppl in then two free cards could mean real trouble.

    I would GENerally lead out with a small test bet (30% of pot) - this might keep in TT -> 66 or even ace high (but the odds arent there if you set your limits to stacks correctly). If you get a call - another 30% bet on the turn.. then you have a devil of a choice on the river depending on the player remaining. Someone with a good kicker should raise you (if they don't they leave open the possibility of you hitting the fh cheaply if you do hit the fh many ppl will be stacked with KJ,KQ - they have to remove implied odds).. Certainly big aggression at the river is a put down from a tight player and a 50/50 call from a loose..

    If the table is very tight (four limpers unlikely) and the last guy is a bully it may be worth the slow play.. If hes been hitting your blinds then slap his wrists with a CR.
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    I agree with gder bet pot to even out the field, so some turkey with a 3 doesn't get a full house on the turn or the river.

    At this flop you are in the lead, you have trips, play it aggressive always, most of the time you'll win this hand, anyone who calls or raises you is most likely bluffing, or has a pair of 3's and is hoping no one has a K.

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    Personally if the flop was rainbow and I had position I would prolly check, if you are in the BB and it is rainbow I might play for a check raise because like someone else said if you lead off with a big bet you are probably only going to get called by a better hand but someone might take a semi bluff at it with that many ppl limping and someone have the low card (i forgot what it was) If there is a flush draw on the flop im defintly betting it though
    If there wern't luck involed i guess id win everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rascal
    I agree with gder bet pot to even out the field, so some turkey with a 3 doesn't get a full house on the turn or the river.

    At this flop you are in the lead, you have trips, play it aggressive always, most of the time you'll win this hand, anyone who calls or raises you is most likely bluffing, or has a pair of 3's and is hoping no one has a K.
    You need callers with weaker hands post-flop to make money here.

    30% will encourage weak callers (who will go beserk if they hit) and should scare a strong kicker into a re-raise.

    If ppl have limped in there is a strong possibility that you are beat so you need information. Gentle betting - getting mildly aggressive on the turn will get information and reduce your risk... you'll end up betting 70% by the river of the pot on the flop and find out much more about what's going on.
    In a lot of situations you can see an ace land and one of the limpers will get aggressive - and you can use his. Gentle betting will also deliver slow played JJ,TT,99 on the river..

    A pot size bet will also get you pot committed if you're not careful about stacks.

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    Check-raise - and raise the pot or 3 times the first raise. If you're called you may be in trouble but if your re-raised again you're beat and can lay it down without having to worry about betting the next two streets or going all-in.

    A check-raise is more expensive than leading out but has the advantage of letting you know where your hand is more so than leading out. If you lead out and get called you still are not sure what you got called by and if re-raised you pretty much have to fold or get bled dry going to showdown. A check-raise will usually end the hand on the flop if your boss; or if you are re-raised, and it will probably be all-in, you can fold it knowing your beat.

    A set/trips will go on to win over 80% of the time so can be slowplayed on the flop at least 70% of the time. Top pair mid/small kicker on the other hand is much more vunerable and should be lead out most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rascal
    I agree with gder bet pot to even out the field, so some turkey with a 3 doesn't get a full house on the turn or the river.
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    Minor point..

    You are praying that a turkey with a 3 gets a full house (not runner runner) by the river as you'd have the dominant full house...
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    I tend to play these hands strongly if there is a FD available. I also look at the texture of the flop to see if it's likely that somebody might be holding the case card.

    Examples...with KK5 and I'm holding K7 I may be more likely to be cautious because there are a lot of hands that people will limp with that contain a K.

    With a flop like K88 and I'm BB with 83, I'm feeling a little more comfortable because the likely hood that somebody limped with the case 8 is much slimmer.

    I've noticed (I noticed this is a NL cash thread, not tournament or limit thread) in tournaments and in limit people with any PP will tend to call you down because they find it hard to believe with 2 cards out there you hold the one of the other 2 cards. In a tournament, I've also done this if my PP is decent for the exact same reason...

    I've also noticed that people that pair the third card tend to bet strongly on the same assumption. This especially true in limit games so I'll play these hands really strongly in limit because you get a lot of different people calling you down with weaker hands...That's more odds based though and the times you win will more then cover (long term) the times you're beat by somebody having you out-kicked.
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    if theres a flush on the board, i usually bet the potsize on the flop and go from there.
    if im called by 1 guy, i probably continue betting on the turn. If called, i probably check-call river.
    if called by more then 1 guy on the flop, i probably check-call turn and river.

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