Im halfway done with SSH and just got done with the part about betting strong draws, did I play this one right?

Both these players seemed like calling stations after about 25 hands

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13 SB) , , (6 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, CO folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, MP1 folds, Button calls.

1 strong draw and two weaker ones, I raised here to protect my hand and for value

Turn: (11.50 BB) (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, Button calls.

I wanted to keep aggression

River: (14.50 BB) (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

Didnt see anyone folding to a bet with the size of the pot, and I didnt want to get raised

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ac Tc (high card, ace).
UTG has 5d Ad (one pair, fives).
Button has 3s 4d (one pair, threes).
Outcome: UTG wins 14.50 BB.

edit: dang your quick, I changed it like 15seconds after the first post...

What was the point of raising from the SB with a mediocre hand?


The rest I like.

I don't like the 3-bet on the flop, becuase you're forcing two players to call 2 cold, and I think you would rather have them stick around with how strong your hand is here. Of course, your hand may allready be best and you would prefer hands like A5 (lol) to fold here, so it may be correct. I dunno... I usually call that raise to try and get overcalls.

The reason I like the 3 bet flop is that Any A, T, Club, or 4 gives him the probable winner. Knock of an out each fromt he Aces and tens for the chance that TP won't win, and you get 14 outs. With two cards to come, he's a 51% favorite to win this. Then if you look at his equity in a 6-way pot there... But I'm waiting for his reasoning on betting PF before I make any comments on that.

Oh, I agree he has enough equity to jam this pot... I just think he gets more value from letting the extra callers some along here.

Three betting can make you more likely to win the pot by "buying" outs or even make better hands like 3-x fold, allowing your hand to ALLREADY be best. But how valuable is increasing your allready large equity vs. one person rather then playing against 3? No clue Just thinking that a flat call MAY have been a better move, but it also may not have been... so feel free to play it any way you like (or figure out which one actually is better if you're up for it... no math for me right now )

I don't disagree with flat calling here, in fact I do like it. At this limti though, I'm usually blindly 8 tabling while doing a crossword, so pseudo-FPS doesn't get the chance to hit me. I see this hand, I'm capping blindly.

PF, If I'm not raising AKs from the blinds into a family pot, sure as Hell I'm not raising it here with ATs. I agree, miller is off the mark there. Yes, there's an equity question of Raising PF, but PF raises also require a touch of fold equity to work. That and A dozen other reasons discussed in previous "AK form the Blinds" threads (multiple times).

I agree with Marm on the PF play, however I disagree with any arguement not to jam the pot post flop. At this level, if they call one bet, they'll call 3 bets (usually even 4 bets). If the level were .5/1 or 1/2 I'd probably go with the over calls, but here, Jamming the pot in siutations like these is one of the ways you make money.

Ok, The hand didn't work out for you, but you are a favorite in these situations enough to jam the pot. The times you win will cover your losses on the times you lose.

I dunno, against crappy players I'm sure you have an equity edge with ATs, so you can't really say that raising is WRONG