I often find myself in this kind of situation and usually fold. Is this correct or is it a bit weak?

On the button in a 5-6 way unraised pot holding 9 10

Flop comes down J T 8 rainbow. I now have middle pair and a gutshot straight draw.

By the time it gets to me there has been a bet and 1 or 2 calls.

I just think that it is likely I am behind now.

- 9 for my two pairs gives two 1 card straight possibilities.
- Another 10 may or may not help.
- Q I am still losing to AK (unlikely to have limped but possible).
- There is a possibility (slim maybe but possibility) of someone haveing Q9 and already flopped the straight.
- A high probability someone else has a 9 so I will be splitting pot if I do hit.

Is everyone else folding here?

This is NL. $100 - $200 buyin.

Originally Posted by WotaWaster

I often find myself in this kind of situation and usually fold. Is this correct or is it a bit weak?

On the button in a 5-6 way unraised pot holding 9 10

Flop comes down J T 8 rainbow. I now have middle pair and a gutshot straight draw.

By the time it gets to me there has been a bet and 1 or 2 calls.

I just think that it is likely I am behind now.

- 9 for my two pairs gives two 1 card straight possibilities.
- Another 10 may or may not help.
- Q I am still losing to AK (unlikely to have limped but possible).
- There is a possibility (slim maybe but possibility) of someone haveing Q9 and already flopped the straight.
- A high probability someone else has a 9 so I will be splitting pot if I do hit.

Is everyone else folding here?

Is this a NL situation?
If this is limit, then u have to call cuz ur getting the right odds to do so..

if this is NL it all depends on the size of the initial bet, if its a rainbow board, then i figure i have 8 outs to draw for the straight.. and i will call if im getting the right odds based on that.. if theres 2 to the flush on the board, i may put one of the callers on a FD and calculate my outs to 6 instead.

Sorry should have been more clear. I am talking exclusively cash game NL Texas Hold 'Em with Blinds in the region of .50/$1 or $1/$2. I am looking more for a general discussion on similar situations rather than the correct play here given all knowedge on sizes of bets, table image, opponents etc.

Obviously these factors will influence your play but am looking more for general guidelines and where you may differ from these dependent upon other factors.

Let me set out another situation. Everyone has stacks of $100+ and BB is $1.

Preflop 5 way pot and you are on button with 9T.

Flop:

8 T J

Pot $5

UTG checks
2nd to act bets $3
3rd player folds
4th player calls $3

You now have middle pair and a 1 card OESD. Highly unlikely you are winning now.

Slight possibility that your already drawing to a split with made straight (Q9).

Reasonable possibility of drawing to split with another player holding a 9.

Your 9 is almost certainly not going to help you, your 10 may, although again you may be drawing deadin that respect to JT, QT, KT, AT. Maybe I'm just pessimistic?

If you hit a 1 card straight implied odds must be very small anyway, and your not being oiffered immediate pot odds. Is a fold correct?

Let me answer this situation this way: Don't play situations where you don't feel you have an advantage. If you think you're beat and there's no way to win with a bluff, then by all means fold this marginal hand.

the flop is a fold, the pot odds arent there. And the implied odds with this hand arent that great, as u wont gain much even if u hit ur straight cuz the board will look very dangerous if the initial bettor has TP and a 7 or Q pops up on the turn.

Anyways, im with steve-o on the fold pf. 910 is only playable in my book if its suited.

The suitedness was kind of irrelevant in this situation but I would be playing them suited if it makes you both happier.