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12-07-2004, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack King off
why would you be playimng AA only for set value??????? has AA gone down in value because you limp/called with it?
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Yes, if there is 6 people in the pot as compared to 2-3
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12-07-2004, 10:07 PM
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its 220-1 to get AA in any one hand. Each time you get dealt a hand, its Always 220-1.
What if your playing 4 handed, is it 480-1 now? Duh, no.
Your trying to say you are ten times less likely to get AA UTG than any other psosition. Duh, No.
ANd yeah, I think he making this stuff up.
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12-07-2004, 10:14 PM
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You're more likely to get AA than you are to get AKs. I don't think I'm making this up.
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12-08-2004, 01:03 AM
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If UTG is a given parameter then its 1/221 or ~220:1 to get AA UTG
If UTG is not a given parameter then its 1/221 x 1/9 or 1/1989 or 1988:1 to get AA UTG
THat's what JKO is getting at.
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12-08-2004, 08:15 AM
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Ok guys this post is about how to play aces, not how likely you are to get them. Cmon stay on topic.
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12-08-2004, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveY
If UTG is a given parameter then its 1/221 or ~220:1 to get AA UTG
If UTG is not a given parameter then its 1/221 x 1/9 or 1/1989 or 1988:1 to get AA UTG
THat's what JKO is getting at.
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I know, but it is just plain wrong. Anytime you are UTG you are going to have a 220:1 of getting AA. You can only get AA UTG when you are UTG. You can't get AA UTG when you are on the button. It is not part of the calcuation.
And this is a stupid argument.
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12-08-2004, 12:21 PM
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change my title babo
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Originally Posted by Jack King off
whats greater getting 5bb in pf or winning a big pot from someone who has no idea his TP isnt good
the 5bb more that you do get in isnt a good thing though. anyone with a brain is only calling that bet thinking of the sick implied odds he has and starts counting your stack and gets off very cheap by folding the flop.
ok not KT but AQ or KQ or something. both these hands if they hit will be much more likely to pay you when they hit TP or something if they were the ones who raised. doesnt limping utg then calling make you think hes weak or something? if someone did that to me id give him credit for like 44 or AT or something not AA
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I believe you mean whats better winning a 5bb bet pf or having a CHANCE to win a big pot. Not that limp-reraisign doesnt give you that chance.
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12-08-2004, 12:22 PM
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change my title babo
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why would you be playimng AA only for set value??????? has AA gone down in value because you limp/called with it?
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No, AA has gone down in value because you have failed to isolate 1-2 players
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12-08-2004, 12:22 PM
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change my title babo
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Originally Posted by Naruto
Hey,
In a NL game where stacks are generally >50bb and often much larger, it's generally good to get as much money in as possible.
Often when you limp call you can get in a world of pain. Like if you limp, he raises with TT and flop is T high you could seriously get crushed here. So it's better to limp raise and get money in, for those situations where the T hits he wouldn't've had odds to chase the set. On the flip side if you limp and he raises with TT and you just call, if the flop is like KQx you will not be getting much if any more money from him.
So this's probably the biggest reason why you'd want to limp reraise instead of limp call.
On top of it, there's the issue of being out of position for the rest of the hand, which makes your hand even more vulnerable...
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Correct!
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12-08-2004, 12:25 PM
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change my title babo
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Originally Posted by Marm
What other hands are you gonn alimp with UTG? This is a dead giveaway to the strangth of your hand.
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Again, I gave the example. A good player will mix-up his play enough. Using the sytsem I gave your opponent could not put you on a hand because he has seen you limp-reraise with  
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